Grigg – where there’s a Will, there’s a way…

Exile @ 6:41 am Friday 23 August 2013

Brentford’s fan site, the whimsically named ‘Beesotted’ has decided that they are the voice of reason regarding transfer fees for young strikers. Their leader plaintively written here, is by someone who obviously has little grasp of the world outside Brentford, and sounds a clarion call from the poorly financed underdogs who are perennial relegation favourites.

They write:

I cannot recall the last time two League One teams exchanged a player for a seven figure sum, let alone one who’s [sic] contract had lapsed for £1m plus – they’ll be lucky to get half that in my opinion – with £350,000 being more likely according to those ‘in the know’

So apparently Will Grigg is worth a maximum of £350,000 according to the Bees man ‘in the know’.

Where’s the logic? Here it is(n’t):

We believe that Brentford and Doncaster Rovers settled the Harry Forrester ‘conflict of valuations’ by being realistic and with a shared desire not to drag things out by taking the issue to a tribunal. If Walsall insists on going that route and not bartering to establish a realistic figure, then what does Smith expect?

How dare we expect our striker, proven as developed and improved over five years, to be worth as much as £350,000 when Harry Forrester was flicked on without a tribunal? How dare we not accept their pitiful offer gratefully. That’ll be the Harry they signed aged 20, not 15, beating off Ajax, then expected a lottery win when he left to step up a league after two seasons, not five+ years, because they weren’t actually that good. Sorry, but that’s no comparison.

Here’s a hint – the tribunal is used when clubs can’t agree. If Brentford’s derisory valuation (believed to have been as low as £150,000) doesn’t match up to Walsall’s expectation, then of course there’s no agreement, which is why there’s a tribunal for youngsters (at the moment, the EPPP may change everything to the detriment of us all).

The Bees bleating about Walsall’s comments from Dean Smith being a “very dull sound bite” is a bit sad. If they’d played ball this could have been sorted. Walsall are not the club dragging the chain on this issue, and Brentford are the club playing a striker they’ve not paid for. If their Beesotted editorial is a reflection of the club’s thinking, here’s our independent response: buzz off!

Pay before you play. Pay up, Brentford. We’d not be waiting on the tribunal if you hadn’t tried to take the mickey.


League Cup – Stoke ticket prices

Exile @ 9:30 pm Monday 12 August 2013

Stoke have announced that the league cup match against Walsall will be a discount affair.

Stoke have chosen to show up their neighbours, Port Vale, who Walsall got past in the first round, by charging two quid less for the second round game. Tickets cost just £12 for adults, and only £6 for concessions – kids under 17 and crusties. Hopefully that will reflect the quality of their product on the pitch as Walsall make short work of their reserves and youth!

Buy tickets from the club ticket office – they’re on sale from ‘later this week’ so check back with the official site for more. official site link

The game is on Wednesday August 28 and kick off is 7.45pm at the Brittania Stadium.

Poll: Where will we finish this season?

Exile @ 10:27 pm Sunday 28 July 2013

The squad appears to mostly in place, the fixtures are out and we kick off for real this weekend. You know the drill – now vote!

Where will we finish this season?
  • Upper mid table (7-12) (48%, 277 Votes)
  • Mid table mediocrity (13-20) (21%, 123 Votes)
  • Playoffs (3-6) (20%, 112 Votes)
  • In League Two (21-24) (6%, 32 Votes)
  • Automatic promotion (1st or 2nd) (5%, 29 Votes)

Total Voters: 573

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Walsall 2-0 Portsmouth: Help Wanted

Exile @ 12:07 am Monday 07 January 2013

First – a request to our readers. After the game a visiting Portsmouth fan was viciously attacked near the railway station in town. If you saw anything or know anything about this incident, in which a middle-aged chap who was in our fair town for the match had his jaw broken in two places by some young thugs, please come forward. The rabble were ravelling in the front car of the train to town, the victim and his wife in the rear.

If you can help, please call the British Transport Police on 0800 40 50 40 or contact the West Midlands Police on 101. Please help bring the perpetrators to justice, or this little gang of scumbags will carry on their cowardly assaults and things might be worse next time.

In the meantime on behalf of UTS we extend our best wishes for a speedy recovery to the victim.

On to the game, which unfortunately the victim suffered too. UTS regular ihatethecorps was there, and had this brief word to say:

Excellent performance today hugely impressed by Darlow, Westcarr (great footballing brain), Brandy (pace that scares the life out of defenders), Chambers, Grigg (best game i’ve seen him have) and Benning (looked like a seasoned pro). Infact the whole team were blooming brilliant

I think it’s fair to say he enjoyed it. I did!

MK Dons 2-4 Walsall: Plastic Fantastic

Exile @ 10:44 pm Wednesday 26 December 2012

[update - admin wrote his post while I was waiting for a report. Never mind! Two is better than none, and it helps to rub it in just a bit...]

What a difference half a week makes. After exactly three months waiting for a three point match, we get two games, two smashing wins, and all of a sudden things look a lot better than they did.

To win away at Suicide City was the stuff of dreams, at least according to betfair and their mates, who had us up as high as 9/1 against, but the Saddlers didn’t stick to the script. In the end Franchise gave us a very welcome late present by rolling over at home and conceding four goals in one game where they’d previously conceded only five in the league all season. It’s always nice to be able to pass on the stuffing at Christmas, especially to the plastic club with no history.

New(ish) UTS regular Tracker34 was at the match, and after several celebratory ales has come up with something resembling a report – thanks mate!

4 shots on target – 4 goals!!

Certainly unexpected but well deserved – keep it going to Orient!

McCarey 6: Felt he could have done better with the second goal and wasn’t too commanding of his area today, may have been down to the wet and breezey conditions, but still not convinced he is anything better than Grof.

Purkiss 7: When Taundry was in I think we all knew that Purkiss was a superior player however I’d forgotten just how much better. Willing to get forward, able to catch defenders trying to run past him down the wing. I’ll even forgive the odd HOOF!
Butler 7: As you’d expect, won a few headers, liked a tackle, took a booking for the team…
Downing 7: You don’t really notice him on the pitch, doesn’t get much wrong which for a young defender in the early matches of his career is ok with me!
Taylor 8: Few strong tackles, few good bursts forward and some great defensive work especially considering that he had little help from Paterson infront of him.

Mantom 6: Good running performance but didn’t really do too much. A bit hesitant in closing players down in first half but improved
Chambers 8: Another great performance. I wasn’t the biggest fan of his return to the first team but has certainly justified it these last two games. Got stuck in.
Patterson 6: Don’t get me wrong it was a great finish for the goal and don’t mind a few misplaced/overhit passes on a day like this but he was unfortunately the worst in a Walsall shirt today. Certainly needs to harden up and also find a way of getting some defensive nous.
Westcarr 7: Looks like he’s starting to get a good link with Brandy going. Best I’ve seen him play for us.

Brandy 9: He seems to terrify teams, also seems to win 90% of our free kicks. Good running all game typified by his burst and trickery at the end of the game to win the free kick leading to Patersons goal. Can do a mean somersault too – worth watching the highlights for!
Grigg 9: Well he’s an international striker isn’t he!! Looked stronger today, looked confident. Didn’t see his second too well but great turn and finish for his first. Keep it up!

Cuvelier 7: Came on, looked classy when he got the ball, will be great to have him for a full 90 mins!!

Just a quick one on MK – I like the place, I like the facilities, I like the set-up, the stewards are friendly, they sell bacon rolls. It’s such a shame they are an odious club of the highest order.

Onward and upward, hopefully. Next up – Leyton Orient away.

Thanks to MK mongs for the six pointer. Can we play you every week?

This week’s friendlies: Kidderminster, Redditch & Burton

Exile @ 10:11 pm Sunday 29 July 2012

So, after the fund raiser against the Dingles that taught us nothing there’s three more games this week for Deano to run the rule over his new signings and prospects. Better hope one of them is a big, physical target man, as we’re missing that particular type of player, and our forward line looks lightweight at the moment – physically at least, according to fans who’ve seen the formations and players so far.

Tuesday sees Walsall travel to the Harriers for a 7.45 kick off at the splendidly named Aggborough Stadium. There’s bound to be some pubs nearby as there’s nothing else to do in Kidderminster. The King & Castle is right next to the station, Harriers Arms by the ground and there’s a supporters club too. Info taken from internet, at the rate pubs are closing not sure if they’re still there.

Wednesday is a visit to Redditch at Valley Stadium (I think). This’ll be a cut down ‘Walsall XI’ rather than a squad game. Again, a 7.45pm kick off. Bar at the ground, or try the Golden Cross (Unicorn Hill, near the station) for a jar.

Saturday is a friendly away at Burton Albion‘s Pirelli Stadium. Should be a good day out, with a 3pm kick off spoiling a tour of Burton’s excellent pubs. Take your pick of the pubs round here – traditionalists should find Cooper’s, which is legendary. Apparently.

Have fun those who are going. If you know anyone who’s proper nawtee, leave them at home, we don’t want delinquents at a family club.

This week’s friendlies: Pelsall, Telford and Wolves

Exile @ 9:26 pm Sunday 22 July 2012

Three friendlies this week to check out the latest signings, youth prospects and triallists at.

Monday sees a Walsall XI visit Pelsall, playing at the Bush Ground in Walsall Road. Dunno how much it costs, but worth a visit as an excuse for a Monday night ale at the Old Bush pub, handily located for further refreshment should the football not be any good. Kick Off is 7.30.

Tuesday sees Walsall travel to Telford. There’s a 7.45 kick off at their Watling Street ground, and you can get in for only eight notes. The Swan Hotel is just up the road, not sure if it’s any good.

Saturday sees the Saddlers hosting the Dingles at the Banks’s's stadium. Tickets twelve quid, or twenty the pair if you buy a ticket for the Baggies game on August 7 at the same time. Kick off for this game is the Saturday standard 3pm.

The good news is that as it’s a full game Saturday, there’s bound to be loads of big name signings this week. Probably for Wolves, made by Stale Sandwich as he tries to make the team his own.

Walsall 0-0 Daggers (2-3 on pens): Sweet FA

Exile @ 12:18 am Wednesday 14 December 2011

By all accounts the faithful were served up a dish of dross at the pre-Christmas feast for famine night at Bescot. On the positive side, we kept another clean sheet in open play, but that’s the only positive. A shameful result, the bad taste of which will linger for a long time.

Asps was at the match and saw it like this:

An abject disgrace of a performance. Smith needs to take a long look at himself and the players he’s signed.

In addition to all said by other posters above, it was a terrible use of subs again tonight. All ours used by 70 minutes, when all could see extra time was coming.

Nichols should never wear the shirt again. How anyone can try to bend a penalty around an imaginary wall is beyond me. He can retire and clean cars at the end of this season.

Freezing cold night & no warm drinks after 60 minutes as shop shut – ffs only at Walsall.

You can comment on the match thread here and from there you can navigate to All About Walsall and have your say about the rest of the season, Smith and whatever else tickles your fancy, or makes your butt itch.

Walsall 0-2 Plastic: sod’s law

Exile @ 9:44 am Sunday 30 October 2011

Keeper sent off, form team can only score two. What would it have been otherwise? Yet again, the Saddlers get the wrong throw of the dice. You make your own karma, one day it’ll come our way. Plenty of fans were at the game and those that were there don’t think we should dismiss our keeper or sack our manager. Here’s a match report from UTS regular Brackley:

I have got to congratulate the lads on a gutsy performance todayfollowing Wacka’s sending off, which for the record I thought was an absolute joke! Assuming the lino was right, it would have been that marginal and was never a clear goalscoring opportunity as their man had our defenders around him…….

I can never remember a season thats only a 1/3 of the way gone, where we have had so many players sent off and from recollection all poor decisions……… as for the standard of refereeing and linesmanship it is nothing short of abismal – I have never seen anything like it!! :evil:

Immediately after the sending off, with Beevers taking the gloves we conceded 2 poor goals……… you couldnt of course blame the lad………. and as im sure we all thought the afternoon was going to descend in to a complete farce and an embarrassing scoreline.

Deano – I dont know whether Grof picked up an injury in the warm up or whether you decided to go it without a keeper on the bench……… if it was the latter, there is no defending what is an extremely poor decision at this level and particularly when you can name 5 subs….. ???? :oops:

Tactically, we had no choice but to make the changes we did and for me they worked extremely well and vindicated my previous view of how we should be using Gnakpa……..Paterson is most definately the cream of our youth and was most certainly worthy of his place.

The second half for me was a total credit to all the players…….. what a performance when we looked dead and buried at half-time. We hit the post, we had numerous half-chances from headers or snap shots when in good positions and the lad Paterson had bullet of a shot from 25 yards palmed away when it looked destined for the top corner. We defended in numbers, we got behind the ball and we broke down their play extremely effectively and then counter-attacked with some intelligent play at times…….

Im sorry….. but we are on the most appalling streak of dare I say bad luck, judging the last 3 games – the lads deserve better. We have the nucleaus of a workmanlike but dogged Div 1 side that needs 2 or 3 players to bring some results and consistency.

The defensive unit was again solid, the midfield was organised and looked settled in the 2nd half and acquitted themselves well and the front line of Gnakpa, Paterson and Nicholls inter-changing brought some hope that we may claw our way back whilst Beevers showed his flair between the sticks.

You can hold your heads up high for that today fellas – there was no shame in that result or performance!!

Two year sentence for Smith

Exile @ 8:26 pm Thursday 31 March 2011

From the blogosphere, it looks like some information has been leaked, then covered up, surrounding the future of Dean Smith, currently our manager to the end of the season.

Looks like BRMB’s ‘thegoalzone’ jumped the gun, tweeting about a two year contract for Deano, which was picked up very quickly and retweeted by Darren Byfield. ‘thegoalzone’ have now taken down their original message, but too late.

Now Late Kick Off are saying that a Midland club have a press conference tomorrow.

If this news has a kernel of truth, it would be rude to offer it without a poll:

Two years for Smith is...
  • a good thing (77%, 226 Votes)
  • too early to tell (20%, 60 Votes)
  • a bad thing (3%, 9 Votes)

Total Voters: 295

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