We shouldn’t have a rent payment to cover #timesupjeff.
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For me rent is not so big problem. I can accept situation, when club have to pay some rent to the landlord. Of course better to live without rent, but sometimes it can’t be changed. But nearly total lack of ambition? It’s difficult to understand. I just don’t see it (please, Championship dream is only a dream, empty word in this context). One money transfer or few free transfers per season is not enough. So rent can be ok, lack of ambition, will to improve is not.
For me, I can’t separate the two.
Lots of people, especially the likes of WM, think we moan about our chairman’s lack of investment.
They think we are asking him to live beyond his means as a prudent businessman who returns a small profit every year.
The problem is that people are too lazy to ask the question why we return this small profit every year.
We aren’t moaning about a lack of money pumped into the club by our chairman. It’s the exact opposite, he takes money away from the club.*
- [an independent entity that acts in accordance with Commerical Law, which our chairman is heavily linked with, coincidentally]
I don’t give a ■■■■ how he funds the rent, it’s money that, desperately, needs to be reinvested in the playing side of the football club.
If it’s written off by the advertising board where did the Henry, Bradshaw, Sawyers, Chelsea, Play Off and Wembley money go? A bunch of League one/Amateur Scottish football rejects? Pull the other one.
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Rent isn’t the only issue here.
It’s direction
It’s big picture thinking.
The period 1994 to 2007 was probably the best period to support Walsall in its history bar the Milk Cup Run.
The period under Dean Smith produced the best footballing Walsall team I’ve ever seen.
Bonser takes credit for all of that.
The Club needs a new direction. It may be for the worse who knows but this period of stagnation we’ve hit has to end.
The rent thing for me is neither here nor there. Who’d buy it ? The Council
We need a new direction
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Thanks, Roy…
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I wonder if anything will eventually emerge from the Makris farce.
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Very much of the opinion - I could offer him £10m for the ground and he wouldn’t take it, claiming I do not have the necessary experience to manage the site.
Its a cash cow and JWB can sell the site for millions to a developer once the club goes pop.
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Also, as it sits in his SIPP, he can hand it on free of Inheritance tax.
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That was a point that I had overlooked.
Other clubs develop commercial streams in order to boost their footballing budget. We develop commercial income just to start from square one. You’ll have to excuse me while I don’t fall at Bonser’s feet in gratitude!
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It amazes me that there are still some fans who don’t understand it.
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Oh mate not understanding things is not something I do.
Offering a different perspective is. What I have said was just food for thought.
What you seem be failing to understand is that no matter what guy/girl buys this club, he/she will want a return on his/her investment. He/she certainly is not going to be handing out his/her hard earned money that he/she has taken years to accumulate just so someone who pays £20 a week thinks they can dictate how and when he/she spends it. The chances are he/she will be withdrawing money from the club too and dressing it up however they want. There is no money in football through investing and spending to accumulate.
How it sounds is that if Bonser were to show “ambition” and add £400K of his own money into the pot then every one would be delighted until that wasn’t good enough, so he would be asked to add more and that wouldn’t be good enough because he’s still not showing enough “ambition”. Where does that end?
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Again, it would be considerably better if the club were to state ‘we cannot compete in League 1’, not just harp on about getting into the championship. I think most fans just want an honest relationship with the club hierarchy.
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Realism, transparency and a long-term plan. Not much to ask.
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But Bonser has made a considerable return on his original £250k investment. Probably getting on for about £8million. Surely it’s time for him to say: “You know what, I’ve made enough of out Walsall Football Club, I’ll start putting something back”. I don’t buy the argument that the advertising sign covers the rent payment. If there was no rent payment then the £400k would go straight into the playing budget. Perhaps then we might be able to outperform footballing giants like Accrington Stanley, Rochdale, Fleetwood and Wycombe!
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When you say we don’t owe anything to the chairman are you not counting the circa £2 million in loans that’s being paid off to him?
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I’m literally just interested in going to the pub with my mates before and after.
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Sorry mate but you are stating incorrect facts there
We never went into administration for one
The companies involved who bonser had direct links with did, and they never filled accounts, but Walsall football club did not
The houses which formed a major part of the underhanded way he got hold of the freehold, where not anywhere near where morrisons stands
Walsall football club did own two houses where you state. And they did hold the sale up for a short time but the two houses which paved the way to him making a fourtunes on the back of Walsall football club actually stood on the Broadway
He led us 1 .6 million of debt overnight, by purchasing a piece of land without the due diligence checks being carried out
Now wether this was an oversight or deliberate is open to debate, but I know where my oppinion would. Fall, who in there right mind would purchase a former sewaradge works, thinking it was not classed as contaminated land
And further more the two companies he was involved with prior, which went into administration, specialised in brown site redevelopment,
So make your own mind up on that one
The council gave him 500k for the so called ransom strip of which 250 k had to be returned to central goverment, At which point he could have easily brought the freehold with said cash, but chose not to as it was not part of the bigger plan
He new how important the two said houses on the Broadway would be to Severn Trent,s future plans
He then played his joker and used said houses and encompsed freehold within his pension pot, and the biggest prize at the fair had been won
Only three men who can now reveal the real truths, after Barry blowers demise and they all still sit on the board of Walsall football club
So you see it’s a totall fabrication that he was our saviour but one he’s happy to be kept alive
He was no saviour of Walsall football club end of
The local buisnesman Eddie kirk, backed by American multimillionaire Irving brown wanted the club but where denied financial information which they kept requesting at the time
The proposed re vamp of fellows park or the building of a new stadium up on the old power station. Never stood a chance, one man saw to that
The master plan he executed to perfection,is now proving to be his Achilles heel, why do you think he’s never sold despite being offered good money,
To many skeletons would come out of the cupboard, hence you will never see it sold during his lifetime
If only the walls of the Sneyd pub could talk, because it’s a certain fact the ones involved never will
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That is what I’m saying though. I’ve read years of people harping on about what £400K would do. Now you’ve got £400K from the advertising sign that Bonsor put in place. Now you want another £400K and expect an owner of a business not to make an ROI.
Split the £400K down a bit. Some will go to his pension fund for facilitating the deal. However much that leaves Bonser with has to be split between 4. Remember he is now at pensionable age so he is probably using the income to facilitate his and his family’s lives.