What would be classed as progress then?.
We need to stop giving Trivela an easy out.
They’ve been here long enough.
That diversion tactic from BS at the forum saying we’d be bottom of the league wages wise without trivela says we should be thankful for being were we are in League 2.
Not good enough imo
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Would anyone see us having a season of steady play-off form progress? As in, less prolific than the start of last season, but maintaining places roughly 3rd-8th throughout the season without a prolonged drop off like last season and the season before.
For me, that would be progress of sorts. One of the main criticism of Sadler/the club has been that we are serial bottlers, so maintaining playoff form all year would be an improvement on that front.
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The only acceptable result next season is promotion.
Anything else is unacceptable and Sadler should be sacked.
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It doesn’t seem to work like that for many/any teams in our division. All teams appear to have horrible runs. We just took it to an extreme last season, and to a lesser extent the season before.
Finishing stronger is better than choking though, I’d say.
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I see Rochdale have invested as much in a lighting rig as we have. 
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Good question. Yes, I think I would. It would show to me that the long-term decision making is more accurate and that eventualities really had been planned for this time. And it would suggest the problem of choking when it mattered had been looked at.
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This is what I don’t get.
With the money coming in from various things such as the advertising board, the Locker etc to name just two, we seem to be able to generate a lot more income than a few other clubs in this league surely 
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It was a tactic to divert away from the way last season ending. We generate a lot of income. Are they really telling us Bromley, Harrogate etc have better budgets than us. Nonsense.
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Just wished the club would level with us sometimes and not treat us all like total buffoons.
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I’m not saying I agree with the board.
I have argued for a long time the need for some continuity and giving any given manager time to construct their team and their philosophy/tactics on that group, and to that extent I think a manager needs 2 summer transfer windows to truly overhaul a team into what they can be judged on. This is Sadlers third summer transfer window and whilst there is no doubt we have made significant progress on what we looked like before Sadler the end outcome of all this progress has to be promotion, so at the end of 3 full seasons if we don’t get promoted then i’d agree it’s probably time to move on and get a manager in who can further the progress we have made under Sadler.
I don’t think Trivela and Pomlet would agree with anything I’ve put above though, hence the comment made ‘progress is not a straight line’ and Pomletts comments in the forum. They absolutely adore Sadler and but for a dramatic collapse in form this season I think they will forgive him one season of slight regression.
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It will be very interesting to see how much they adore Mat if we have a poor start say bottom 6 by the end of September. Hopefully their patience won’t be tested and we have a good start. Their bumps in the road line won’t cut it for a lot of supporters now. Just my opinion of course. Let’s see what happens transfer wise this week and the results that follow 
To be honest, they are right to an extent.
You can’t just guarantee promotion will happen. It’s not that easy, last season doesn’t count for anything now.
What I am looking for is at least a serious attempt at it. We’ve made some decent signings but the squad we have at the moment is in my opinion quite a bit weaker than what we finished with last season.
Next few signings are key.
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Absolutely. I don’t think it should be as black and white as promoted or sacked for Sadler. I think if we have a serious attempt at it that’s fine, so long as we don’t go making any massive howlers or prolonged poor runs again.
We can still have a good season next year, and not get promoted, without it being a huge disaster. Promotion has to be the aim though.
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If Sadler has another serious bad run then he has to go. I’m not sure how bad the run has to be, but it won’t take much for the fans to be calling for it.
I am looking more at the team we start the season with or at least when the window closes. I know we have spent a few fees on players but it feels like we should have enough money in the pot to bring in the few quality players we need to give ourselves a shot.
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It took Clough a few seasons to do it with Mansfield who had a top budget. I agree though neither Mat nor the club can afford a bad run.
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The chances of that happening dwindle ‘hugely’, with only 2/3 left to come in. Loans me thinks.
I hope we come flying out of the blocks, a bad start is the last thing we need especially after last season’s end.
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I had a look over the last few league two seasons up to, but not including the COVID season. 20 managers have secured promotion out of the league in that time, three took longer than three years, Clough, Matt Taylor and Michael Duff, who was the longest at 4 years. Johnnie Jackson was in his third full season.
The rest were two years max or under, even Joey Barton did it in 15 months.
Outside of that, Simon Weaver is still in situ at Harrogate having never really troubled the top of the table. Paul Cook and Andy Woodman have been at their clubs over 3 years but haven’t been in league two for that length of time. Lee Bell is similar to Sadler in time at Crewe, wonder if he is under any pressure there this season.
I genuinely think, given he was lucky to be retained, it is this season or we move Sadler on.
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Strange we have allowed him to go out on loan without someone coming in,would have thought they would have delayed the loan
They’ve been watching his replacement for “quite a while now.” So it’ll take a couple of weeks yet, if at all.
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