Accrington right in it now. Got nothing from what looked like two winnable home games and used up a game in hand last night, keeper also sent off. Barnsley away to come on Saturday and their remaining game in hand is Sunderland at home. Very much one of the teams we could reel in and overtake with a win on Saturday, and then we play them next month. Them, along with Scunthorpe, Southend, and Wycombe are on the dreaded downward trajectory. So important we get 3 points on Saturday.
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Funny old game . Watching them run Sunderland ragged a couple of weeks ago ( at Sunderland) especially in the first half , you just couldnât envisage them struggling - they were excellent going forward .
But if confidence saps âŚ
Yeah we should just all agree at all times.
Got to say I think they are out of it. Poor results but they need 9 points from 12 games realistically. Win their game in hand and they could end up 11th, although as you say thatâs the exact opposite of a gimmie considering itâs against Sunderland.
Think itâs anyone from Shrewsbury down to Rovers that are battling to avoid that last spot.
I did the calculator thing today without predicting any results. We were 22nd with 42 points. Burton finished on 60 points.
Why mention Burton? Well, I did it again, only predicting Walsall games and giving us 4 wins, 3 draws and 4 defeats. We were 14th on 54 points. Burton were 21st on 50 points. 
Seems fishy to me.
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Oh my, really? 3 points from our final 11 games? As bad as I think weâve been under keates, his team will surely get more than that? However, I know how it happens when youâre trying to predict all results, itâs only when you look back that you realise youâve predicted Walsall to lose every week 
Following that logic, if we win and overtake them on Saturday that would mean we are ahead of a team that you think are âout of itâ? Fair enough if thatâs your opinion! Personally I see 53 or even 54 points as the finish line this season, as things stand at the moment. Obviously that can change if a team goes on a horrendous run like we did either side of Christmas, should Wycombe lose to Sunderland on Saturday that would be their fifth straight defeat incidentally.
I think the simple answer is that we just donât know how many points will mean safety. Itâs not just the bottom of the table which determines it. Itâs possible three teams will reach 90 plus points. Unusual, but not unheard of. That has has a knock-on effect at the bottom.
Solskjaer hadnât got a great managerial record before electrifying United. That, and last nightâs result, might be evidence for the theory that football management is 95% luck and 10% (sic) talent/expertise/ability.__This would explain why even the most successful managers nearly always fail in the end. Ferguson and (to a lesser extent) Wenger are very much the exceptions to the rule. Moreover, itâs often said of the good - even great - managers: âHow would they get on managing Walsall or Rochdale?â Of course, managing with money (loads of it) is very different from managing with peanuts: itâs plausible to suggest that a good manager with money couldnât cut the mustard with peanuts - and, equally, a good manager on peanuts (e.g. Graydon, Smith) might well be rubbish when given loads of cash. Letâs see how well Smith does at Villa with a fair wodge to spend: he is too new to judge at the moment and hasnât had enough time and transfer windows to create his own team yet. He might succeed, he might not. Time will tell (if heâs given enough time to succeed or to hang himself).
I think it would be a massive step to be fair. Weâd need 8 from 10 which is a much more doable than the situation we are in now. I wouldnât go so far as to say if we win and overtake them we are in a better position though as theyâd still have a game in hand.
Itâs been a very rare occasion that that kind of points total hasnât been enough to survive. Who knows though. Maybe you are right, it will be over 50 in that case pretty much the bottom half is still in trouble.
Success in Football is 95% man management , the talent is already there itâs maximising it which is key.
Take Pep he inspires through his philosophy and the players buy into it. Very clever man.
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Man u are still the same players the special one â â â â â â off thats the difference
Exactly they have a squad full of quality but the handling was poor .
These players have massive egos must be a nightmare to manage them.
Indeed. A major skill of the modern manager is psychology. If the manager canât control his own ego then he is unlikely to be able to manage theirs.
It has to be portrayed as all about them rather than all about him.
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The difference a little run of form can make ⌠putting the âfishyâ relegation calculator through its paces with no input whatever (allowing the calculator to predict all remaining games) it has us finishing in 18th place on 54 points.
Sounds good to me 
I did the same thing (with no input from me), and we finished 22nd on 46 points!!!
I donât trust it.
That happened to me about an hour ago, but perhaps todayâs results have only just been fed in to their system? Try again - itâs worth it!!!
No, the results were in. I started with the table as it currently stands.
I did it again, predicting we would lose the next three games but still pick up 11 points (putting in no other teamâs results), and Bristol Rovers were relegated, with Fleetwood just above them.
In the one I did before with no input from me, Bristol Rovers finished 12th!!!
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Just done it again twice - with no input from me.
- 21st on 49 points
- 24th on 42 points
Itâs a waste of time âŚ
Are you joking? I canât tell?
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