It’s also the Chairman’s dinner tomorrow night
People are starting to have unpleasant pops at Ben Boycott and Trivela now.
Be very, very careful Saddlers fans. Thats all I’m gonna say on this for now…
Anyone seen the mess some other clubs are in because chairman that have previously been very committed just end up getting sick of the abuse
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I doubt BB will wake up one morning to see a coffin being paraded outside his house in Birmingham Alabama. The fanbase is restless again with good reason but we aren’t that extreme!
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What are we supposed to do then? Just think everything is wonderful?
My personal opinion is that I will comment on the awful January on here - but if we do not achieve promotion, then they will get both barrels.
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Really? Wigan got 100 points in 2002-03, winning the league by 14 points….
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Just maybe the squad aren’t as good as most thought .lot of bigin up players to be world beaters by everyone .like SC said season is 46 games .Vale yesterday looked streets ahead of us yesterday and at anytime during our run to the top of this league as well .fans really do underestimate the Lowe factor on this team .the old saying is very true anything any good needs to be built on sound foundations.were experiencing some serious subsidence at the moment .
Sadlers should and hopefully would carry the can if we fail to get promoted but you are right, Trivela can’t be allowed to just pot Sadler and have him carry all blame.
That extra 0.3 ppg over 16 matches would have seen us home and dry.
No, you must see the world through certain posters eyes, with no emotion attached, I believe it may be a new forum rule 
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that’s what it told me. Just asked again and now it says Leeds in 06/07.
Is the answer no-one?
I guess the new contract was partly to protect the club as probably minimal compensation if someone from higher had come in to poach Sadler.
All the last few months have shown is he is nowhere near ready to manage in league one. Just like DS wasn’t in 2012. By mid 2014 DS was ready to manage in the championship and happened the next season.
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But we have only 5 matches if Sadler is replaced now. Hardly likely to reverse out slump sadly.
Absolutely ridiculous thread
We don’t half have some dickheads parading as “supporters”
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Wow.
Oh dear.
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Leeds in 06/07 had a very poor start to the Championship season and were near the bottom at Christmas, but improved as the season went on, winning 4 of the last 10. Overall, they were W13 D7 L26 Pts46, and would have been safe from relegation if not for a 10 points deduction.
Chat GPT comes up with these examples:
Wolverhampton Wanderers (2001/02):
- Wolves held a 10-point advantage over West Bromwich Albion with eight games remaining in the First Division (now the Championship). However, a poor run of form allowed West Brom to overtake them for automatic promotion. Wolves then lost in the play-offs, missing out on promotion. fourfourtwo.com
Newcastle United (1995/96):
- In the Premier League, Newcastle had a 12-point lead over Manchester United in January. A series of defeats saw them relinquish this lead, ultimately finishing second.
Deepseek gives this answer:
Yes, there have been instances in English league football where teams have squandered significant leads at the top of the table, though a 13-point lead being lost is extremely rare. Here are some notable examples of teams throwing away big advantages:
1. Newcastle United (1995-96, Premier League)
- Lead: 12 points over Manchester United in January.
- Outcome: Kevin Keegan’s side famously collapsed, losing key games and allowing Manchester United to overtake them. The “I will love it if we beat them!” rant by Keegan became iconic.
2. Nottingham Forest (2022-23, Championship Play-Offs)
- While not a league collapse, Forest had a 13-point cushion over Sheffield United for 2nd place (automatic promotion) in January 2022, but injuries and poor form saw them drop out of the top two and lose in the play-offs.
3. Wigan Athletic (2019-20, League One)
- Lead: 8 points at the top in February.
- Outcome: A terrible run of form saw them drop to 2nd, missing out on the title to Rotherham (though they were still promoted).
4. Hull City (2020-21, League One)
- Lead: 6+ points at the top in early 2021.
- Outcome: A late slump saw them finish 2nd behind Peterborough.
Has a 13-point lead ever been completely blown?
While no documented case exists of a team losing a 13-point lead and failing to promote, there have been dramatic collapses:
- Charlton Athletic (2018-19, League One) had a 10-point lead for automatic promotion in March but fell into the play-offs (though they still won promotion).
- Sunderland (2021-22, League One) were top in January but finished 5th, needing play-offs (they promoted via them).
The closest might be Bristol City (2014-15, League One), who were top by 11 points in February but suffered a shocking run of 1 win in 10, dropping to 3rd and needing the play-offs (they lost in the final).
Conclusion
A 13-point lead being completely lost without promotion is exceptionally rare, but teams have come close (e.g., Bristol City’s 11-point collapse). Most famously, Newcastle’s 12-point Premier League lead was lost, but that was for the title, not promotion.
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That’s why you shouldn’t trust ChatGPT. Bristol City won the league that season. 
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Only at lunch time due to an early kick-off. I’m still only calling it 12. 