If there was a second EU Vote.........

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Keep my vote as LEAVE
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Keep my vote as REMAIN
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Re: If there was a second EU Vote.........

Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:09 pm

Thank you! :D

If only you applied the same diligence in becoming less ignorant. :P :lol:

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Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:14 pm

True to form....back with the personal jibes and insults.

Never far from the surface is it? Thought you'd been doing well on the lack of abuse front these past few weeks but to be fair it seems most have been ignoring your "bait" and the traps set. :wink:

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Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:20 pm

I'm the same as I always am SG. :idea:

Just sitting back and watching the truth come out. :mrgreen:

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Re: If there was a second EU Vote.........

Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:30 pm

Sound_out wrote:I'm the same as I always am SG. :idea:
Belittling?


Sound_out wrote:Just sitting back and watching the truth come out. :mrgreen:
So you "put it out there yesterday" with an outrageous claim about Robin Cook's death - tell us the truth on that. You seem to think you know differently to the fact he died of a heart attack.

Care to say more and back it up with evidence? :idea:

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Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:47 pm

One of the truths to come out is that the US and its allies were indeed supplying weapons, intelligence and money to ISIS and al qaeda. Now proven without any doubt. :idea:

I can quite clearly remember your response, in particular, to my stating this, quite insulting it was too! ISIS terrorists who were chopping people's heads off, shooting people on beaches, running people down in trucks and shooting and blowing up Parisians while being funded by the US and it's allies.

I'm amazed you've got nothing to say on this now SG. Well, I'm not really, it shows your caliber, or lack of! :lol:

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Re: If there was a second EU Vote.........

Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:09 pm

So a big fat resounding NO. You have nothing to back up the "alternative theory" to Robin Cook's death?

Thought not. :lol:

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Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:11 pm

Amazing how people can post up on the internet any old guff, smear whomever they wish to and then put the onus on others to disprove their "theory".

e.g. just where did those photos go that Iraqi Govt had of 2 British planes shot down?
e.g. ISIS beheading video was staged and fake
e.g. Kev the Trucker's "Christalmighty, look what they use EU funding for" fake list
et cetera
et cetera[/i]

Oh and it's calibre not caliber :wink:

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Re: If there was a second EU Vote.........

Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:13 pm

Super Gabor wrote:So a big fat resounding NO. You have nothing to back up the "alternative theory" to Robin Cook's death?

Thought not. :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Absolutely bloody woeful. Flake Out reigns supreme as undisputed emperor of the deluded.

Wibble. :mrgreen:

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Re: If there was a second EU Vote.........

Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:22 pm

Just another example of Sound-Out becoming his alter ego Found-Out and ignoring the question he has been asked.
Just another normal day in the La La Land of Mr Conspiracy Theory Capital .
You couldn't make it up even if you tried.

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Re: If there was a second EU Vote.........

Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:59 pm

Super Gabor wrote:So a big fat resounding NO. You have nothing to back up the "alternative theory" to Robin Cook's death?

Thought not. :lol:


I have reviewed the inconsistencies and combined with a lack of any formal enquiry my intuition leads me think there's far more to this case than meets the eye, just as the death of Dr David Kelly has many unanswered questions. Both highly likely murdered in my opinion.

My intuition also told me that there were no WMD, Blair and Bush were lying, governments were spying on us as Snowden informed, the allies were supplying weapons to terrorists, Brexit, Trump winning etc etc. All proven right. I prefer to trust my gut than our corrupt media and government and it's served me well!

It's sad that people like you, Saigon and others are more concerned about not being seen to be wrong than holding the allies to account for supplying weapons to ISIS and other terrorist organisations. [post moderated]

One final thought, as we now have proof that the allies were supplying ISIS in Syria it doesn't take a genius to work out that they were probably doing the same in Iraq. Iraqi government officers stated it on numerous occasions yet because it didn’t appear on the BBC or in the Guardian it must be a crazy conspiracy theory. :lol: But this is the level of your ignorance, to not even consider it happening here when it’s been proven in Syria. Quite breath-taking but far from surprising.

Anyway, training tonight so must dash, I'll look forward to reading more of your ignorance tomorrow. :lol:

Toodle-pip! :wink:

PS There may be a few spelling mistakes in here, I've corrected some but feel free to highlight any I've missed. :lol:

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Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:30 am

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Super Gabor wrote:So a big fat resounding NO. You have nothing to back up the "alternative theory" to Robin Cook's death?

Thought not. :lol:


I have reviewed the inconsistencies and combined with a lack of any formal enquiry my intuition .....


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

A genius in his own mind.

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Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:04 am

I prefer the term visionary! :mrgreen:

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Re: If there was a second EU Vote.........

Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:08 pm

Who knows what the settlement bill might be, but if it is £60 billion, could this be divvied up amongst the Brexiteers?

£60,000,000,000 divided by 17,410,742 = £3,466 each. Maybe spread it over 5 years in instalments.

To be fair, the trade-off could be that Brexiteers are exclusively given the net benefit of costs to the EU we will now save :wink: over the same period of time. I think it was quoted (erroneously) at £350M a week = £18.2 B a year. Over 5 years that would be £91B. Shared out specifically to Brexiteers that would be £5,266 each, so you'd be quids in whilst Remainers look on enviously.

Deal? :D

Love one of the comments in here (#695)
60 Billion, lol. How does "Gulf Foxtrot Yankee" sound Junckers, you old lush ? The kind of thing a The Scum newspaper headline writer would come up with in the 1980s.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38825830

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Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:01 pm

So it has been passed by a majority of 384. Good.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38833883

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Re: If there was a second EU Vote.........

Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:27 pm

swampysaddler wrote:So it has been passed by a majority of 384. Good.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38833883


Yep, now time to get on with making Brexit happen without any more pointless and expensive appeals. :D

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Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:42 pm

And there is the list of those MP's that can't accept defeat.
47 Labour, 50 SNP, 7 Lib Dems, 3 SDLP, 1 Green, 2 Plaid, 1 Conservative, and 3 Independent voted against triggering Article 50
Alexander, Heidi (Labour) Lewisham East
Ali, Rushanara (Labour) Bethnal Green and Bow
Allen, Graham (Labour) Nottingham North
Allin-Khan, Dr Rosena (Labour) Tooting
Berger, Luciana (Labour) Liverpool, Wavertree
Bradshaw, Mr Ben (Labour) Exeter
Brennan, Kevin (Labour) Cardiff West
Brown, Lyn (Labour) West Ham
Bryant, Chris (Labour) Rhondda
Buck, Ms Karen (Labour) Westminster North
Butler, Dawn (Labour) Brent Central
Cadbury, Ruth (Labour) Brentford and Isleworth
Clwyd, Ann (Labour) Cynon Valley
Coffey, Ann (Labour) Stockport
Coyle, Neil (Labour) Bermondsey and Old Southwark
Creagh, Mary (Labour) Wakefield
Creasy, Stella (Labour) Walthamstow
Debbonaire, Thangam (Labour) Bristol West
Doughty, Stephen (Labour) Cardiff South and Penarth
Dowd, Jim (Labour) Lewisham West and Penge
Eagle, Maria (Labour) Garston and Halewood
Ellman, Mrs Louise (Labour) Liverpool, Riverside
Farrelly, Paul (Labour) Newcastle-under-Lyme
Foxcroft, Vicky (Labour) Lewisham, Deptford
Gapes, Mike (Labour) Ilford South
Greenwood, Lilian (Labour) Nottingham South
Hayes, Helen (Labour) Dulwich and West Norwood
Hillier, Meg (Labour) Hackney South and Shoreditch
Huq, Dr Rupa (Labour) Ealing Central and Acton
Kyle, Peter (Labour) Hove
Lammy, Mr David (Labour) Tottenham
Maskell, Rachael (Labour) York Central
McCarthy, Kerry (Labour) Bristol East
McKinnell, Catherine (Labour) Newcastle upon Tyne North
Moon, Mrs Madeleine (Labour) Bridgend
Murray, Ian (Labour) Edinburgh South
Pound, Stephen (Labour) Ealing North
Sharma, Mr Virendra (Labour) Ealing, Southall
Siddiq, Tulip (Labour) Hampstead and Kilburn
Slaughter, Andy (Labour) Hammersmith
Smith, Jeff (Labour) Manchester, Withington
Smith, Owen (Labour) Pontypridd
Stevens, Jo (Labour) Cardiff Central
Timms, Stephen (Labour) East Ham
West, Catherine (Labour) Hornsey and Wood Green
Whitehead, Dr Alan (Labour) Southampton, Test
Zeichner, Daniel (Labour) Cambridge
Clarke, Mr Kenneth (Conservative) Rushcliffe
Ahmed-Sheikh, Ms Tasmina (Scottish National Party) Ochil and South Perthshire
Arkless, Richard (Scottish National Party) Dumfries and Galloway
Bardell, Hannah (Scottish National Party) Livingston
Black, Mhairi (Scottish National Party) Paisley and Renfrewshire South
Blackford, Ian (Scottish National Party) Ross, Skye and Lochaber
Blackman, Kirsty (Scottish National Party) Aberdeen North
Boswell, Philip (Scottish National Party) Coatbridge, Chryston and Bellshill
Brock, Deidre (Scottish National Party) Edinburgh North and Leith
Brown, Alan (Scottish National Party) Kilmarnock and Loudoun
Cameron, Dr Lisa (Scottish National Party) East Kilbride, Strathaven and Lesmahagow
Chapman, Douglas (Scottish National Party) Dunfermline and West Fife
Cherry, Joanna (Scottish National Party) Edinburgh South West
Cowan, Ronnie (Scottish National Party) Inverclyde
Crawley, Angela (Scottish National Party) Lanark and Hamilton East
Day, Martyn (Scottish National Party) Linlithgow and East Falkirk
Docherty-Hughes, Martin (Scottish National Party) West Dunbartonshire
Donaldson, Stuart Blair (Scottish National Party) West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine
Ferrier, Margaret (Scottish National Party) Rutherglen and Hamilton West
Gethins, Stephen (Scottish National Party) North East Fife
Gibson, Patricia (Scottish National Party) North Ayrshire and Arran
Grady, Patrick (Scottish National Party) Glasgow North
Grant, Peter (Scottish National Party) Glenrothes
Gray, Neil (Scottish National Party) Airdrie and Shotts
Hendry, Drew (Scottish National Party) Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch and Strathspey
Hosie, Stewart (Scottish National Party) Dundee East
Kerevan, George (Scottish National Party) East Lothian
Kerr, Calum (Scottish National Party) Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk
Law, Chris (Scottish National Party) Dundee West
Mc Nally, John (Scottish National Party) Falkirk
McDonald, Stewart Malcolm(Scottish National Party) Glasgow South
McDonald, Stuart C. (Scottish National Party) Cumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch East
McLaughlin, Anne (Scottish National Party) Glasgow North East
MacNeil, Angus Brendan (Scottish National Party) Na h-Eileanan an Iar
Monaghan, Carol (Scottish National Party) Glasgow North West
Monaghan, Dr Paul (Scottish National Party) Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross
Mullin, Roger (Scottish National Party) Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath
Newlands, Gavin (Scottish National Party) Paisley and Renfrewshire North
Nicolson, John (Scottish National Party) East Dunbartonshire
O’Hara, Brendan (Scottish National Party) Argyll and Bute
Oswald, Kirsten (Scottish National Party) East Renfrewshire
Paterson, Steven (Scottish National Party) Stirling
Robertson, Angus (Scottish National Party) Moray
Salmond, Alex (Scottish National Party) Gordon
Sheppard, Tommy (Scottish National Party) Edinburgh East
Stephens, Chris (Scottish National Party) Glasgow South West
Thewliss, Alison (Scottish National Party) Glasgow Central
Weir, Mike (Scottish National Party) Angus
Whiteford, Dr Eilidh (Scottish National Party) Banff and Buchan
Whitford, Dr Philippa (Scottish National Party) Central Ayrshire
Wishart, Pete (Scottish National Party) Perth and North Perthshire
Brake, Tom (Liberal Democrat) Carshalton and Wallington
Carmichael, Mr Alistair (Liberal Democrat) Orkney and Shetland
Clegg, Mr Nick (Liberal Democrat) Sheffield, Hallam
Farron, Tim (Liberal Democrat) Westmorland and Lonsdale
Olney, Sarah (Liberal Democrat) Richmond Park
Pugh, John (Liberal Democrat) Southport
Williams, Mr Mark (Liberal Democrat) Ceredigion
Durkan, Mark (Social Democratic & Labour Party) Foyle
McDonnell, Dr Alasdair (Social Democratic & Labour Party) Belfast South
Ritchie, Ms Margaret (Social Democratic & Labour Party) South Down
McGarry, Natalie (Independent) Glasgow East
Thomson, Michelle (Independent) Edinburgh West
Hermon, Lady (Independent) North Down
Saville Roberts, Liz (Plaid Cymru) Dwyfor Meirionnydd
Williams, Hywel (Plaid Cymru) Arfon
Lucas, Caroline (Green Party) Brighton, Pavilion

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Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:12 pm

WHAT! Robin Cook, - dead, and a man with a phone on a mountain ..............sounds fishy or lizardy. We need to know the truth, if only Sound-out was here to crack this mystery!

Can't wait for tomorrow.

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Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:53 am

Super Gabor wrote:Who knows what the settlement bill might be, but if it is £60 billion, could this be divvied up amongst the Brexiteers?

£60,000,000,000 divided by 17,410,742 = £3,466 each. Maybe spread it over 5 years in instalments.

To be fair, the trade-off could be that Brexiteers are exclusively given the net benefit of costs to the EU we will now save :wink: over the same period of time. I think it was quoted (erroneously) at £350M a week = £18.2 B a year. Over 5 years that would be £91B. Shared out specifically to Brexiteers that would be £5,266 each, so you'd be quids in whilst Remainers look on enviously.

Deal? :D

Love one of the comments in here (#695)
60 Billion, lol. How does "Gulf Foxtrot Yankee" sound Junckers, you old lush ? The kind of thing a The Scum newspaper headline writer would come up with in the 1980s.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38825830


Thank you for highlighting just how dire a project the EU is and how vile it's leaders are. This ludicrous bill only makes my leave vote feel more justified.

Good riddance.

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Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:13 pm

Can't wait to leave now... get rid of these desperate bureaucrats for good....

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Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:44 pm

Cheesebag wrote:Can't wait to leave now... get rid of these desperate bureaucrats for good....

Are you referring to the 32,578 people who work for the European Commission or the 406,140 working in the U.K.'s Civil Service? :D

I think you will find that Fox and Davis are having to recruit thousands of more "bureaucrats" right here to sort out the humongous Brexit mess that is unravelling and be deployed to work up new trade deals. These things don't happen just on a whim.

Still, I am sure we are all as taxpayers happy to meet the additional costs of resolving this and it will work out fine in the end. :wink:

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Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:21 pm

Absolutely will.... look at all the money we will save in the long run, maybe the brexiteers will get a tax rebate then :D

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Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:01 pm

Cheesebag wrote:Absolutely will.... look at all the money we will save in the long run, maybe the brexiteers will get a tax rebate then :D


All Walsall Libraries except central closing, council tax up 5% and a 86 million hole to find savings for, I heard today. How much will we be expected to pay to gain access to the EU again? Just wondering when 'the savings' will come along? :?

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Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:38 pm

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Cheesebag wrote:Absolutely will.... look at all the money we will save in the long run, maybe the brexiteers will get a tax rebate then :D


All Walsall Libraries except central closing, council tax up 5% and a 86 million hole to find savings for, I heard today. How much will we be expected to pay to gain access to the EU again? Just wondering when 'the savings' will come along? :?


That's a bit of lie isn't it considering the libraries closing are listed below in the story !!!! A total of 9 not all apart from Central.
Over exaggerating just to try and justify your doom and gloom predictions.
Do try harder in future.

http://www.walsalladvertiser.co.uk/phea ... story.html
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Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:25 pm

I was wondering why Ms D Abbott failed to vote yesterday. A conveniently timed headache. :lol:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/02/diane-abbott-missed-article-50-vote-due-to-migraine-her-office-says

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Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:30 pm

Super Gabor wrote:I was wondering why Ms D Abbott failed to vote yesterday. A conveniently timed headache. :lol:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/02/diane-abbott-missed-article-50-vote-due-to-migraine-her-office-says



She was also pictured in the pub an hour before the vote.

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Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:14 pm

swampysaddler wrote:
Super Gabor wrote:I was wondering why Ms D Abbott failed to vote yesterday. A conveniently timed headache. :lol:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/02/diane-abbott-missed-article-50-vote-due-to-migraine-her-office-says



She was also pictured in the pub an hour before the vote.

Medicinal maybe?!

Saw her on Question Time last Thursday for the hundredth time. Mind you, Corbs only has her and Emily Thornberry to rely on to try and "front up" Labour these days. It made me wonder if I had ever seen her on a QT edition that was ever outside London. I reckon not.

Does she have a problem actually getting outside of Hackney?

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Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:35 am

swampysaddler wrote:
SaigonSaddler wrote:
Cheesebag wrote:Absolutely will.... look at all the money we will save in the long run, maybe the brexiteers will get a tax rebate then :D


All Walsall Libraries except central closing, council tax up 5% and a 86 million hole to find savings for, I heard today. How much will we be expected to pay to gain access to the EU again? Just wondering when 'the savings' will come along? :?


That's a bit of lie isn't it considering the libraries closing are listed below in the story !!!! A total of 9 not all apart from Central.
Over exaggerating just to try and justify your doom and gloom predictions.
Do try harder in future.

http://www.walsalladvertiser.co.uk/phea ... story.html


I stand corrected. Only NINE libraries are closing. Brilliant! We're saved etc ... Thanks tories! :x

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Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:42 am

Well done for fact checking Swampy!

According to http://lovelibrarieswalsall.co.uk/find-a-library/ there are, if the site is up to date, actually 18 libraries in Walsall if you include the mobile one. So nine would account for half rather than all. :D

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Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:22 am

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Cheesebag wrote:Absolutely will.... look at all the money we will save in the long run, maybe the brexiteers will get a tax rebate then :D


All Walsall Libraries except central closing, council tax up 5% and a 86 million hole to find savings for, I heard today. How much will we be expected to pay to gain access to the EU again? Just wondering when 'the savings' will come along? :?

Local government has never had enough cash to run local services and has always relied on huge dollops of cash from central government.

Both central and local government are spending far more than they raise in taxes, so something has to change.

Central government has chosen to cut funding and therefore local government has to cut services.

I would much rather we raised more in tax revenues from the rich and from multi-national companies. To bring this back to the EU, Britain's membership of the EU has made it much easier for companies like Apple and Microsoft and Amazon and Starbucks and even U2 (Bono you barclays) to avoid paying any tax at all. So the bottom line is that it is the EU's fault that public services are being strangled. Maybe when we tell Apple et al. to pay their fair share of tax or fudge off from this green and pleasant land we can get out libraries back..... :mrgreen:

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Re: If there was a second EU Vote.........

Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:11 pm

When will these people accept the inevitable that we are leaving the EU.
Get over it you bunch of sore losers.

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