It was only to be expected that after the Crewe games, some creep(s) would follow suit and start hurling pyros onto the pitch in the name of the Saddlers. Before this gets out of hand the club need to stamp this out.
Perhaps the moron(s), lame of thinking, had not noticed that the Crewe fan identified has been banned from attending matches for 3 years…and they are to face court where they will receive a criminal conviction.
Just to recap:
Throwing a Pyro at a game is illegal
Possessing a pyro at a game is illegal
Even attempting to smuggle one in the ground is against the law.
Pyros - Flairs and Smoke bombs, are both dangerous. Flairs especially so.
Smoke bombs emit toxins dangerous to health - particularly child health. Children can be usually found at the touchline where these things are most dangerous.
These fools bring the club into disrepute and risk the Club facings sanctions.
I would have no hesitation in using the QR reporting mechanism to see these people removed.
Part of the modern game that isn’t needed. Add it to the list of …
“grown men” needing to stand on seats at the game blocking views. I get a kid doing it but come on. This happened today so annoying. Yes stand up in your seated area.
The need to lunge over seats when there is a goal. Ridiculous. Not everyone wants to star in the limbs.
Camera phone in the air obscuring views. Sky are there recording the highlights you’ve paid money for a ticket just watch the game !
All of the above makes me think twice about going to away games. As I have said before, not all people are able to stand up through the games so basically are not able to see the match at all. People can be so selfish.
I have no idea why anyone would want to take one to a football game but there are obviously some who think it’s a good idea.
I prefer to sit and watch the game and only stand up when we score but I didn’t have a choice today so stood up throughout the match. Unfortunately when we scored I quickly became aware of pushing behind me that resulted in me clattering into the man directly in front which was ok until I was catapulted further forward when someone landed on my shoulders.
Sorry @Wednesburyres i wasn’t going on about celebrating, more so this need to clamber over the row in front or wrag your mates around on the same row to the point where folks are getting knocked over.
I get the standing up thing at away games and home games. I stand at both if I can. If you don’t like you can usually avoid it.
Agree these ain’t young lads either I’ve seen pissed up blokes in their 40s who feel the need to lunge onto people 2 rows down having no regards for those in between, how no one’s got seriously injured I honestly don’t know, then official Walsall posting a video with the use of the word “limbs” really don’t help.
I might come across as a boring bloke in this message but I’m really not I just don’t see the sense in it, kids running down the gangway to the front to touch their hero when they score is what should happen not fully grown adults chucking themselves about with disregard for other people’s safety.
Life’s a bit shit for a lot of people just now. Mental health, especially that of men of a certain age, is a national catastrophe. Sometimes that needs a safe(ish) outlet. And a day out with mates at the football where you can let yourself go a bit is one of the better options.
I get that this causes a problem for other people. For me, this isn’t about behaviour but the environment. The notion of all seated away ends is daft. People want to watch football in a diversity of ways, yet all seated away ends try, and universally fail, to enforce a homogenous way to do it. There’s never been a homogenous way to watch football. Ever. Even the traditionally more gentrified cricket with its “party” stands gets that (yesterday was very gentle compared with a test final session on the Rae Bank at Edgbaston).
Accrington was perfect. You wanna stand, then stand, you wanna sit down then sit down.
I agree that people have and will get hurt in “limbs” celebrations in all seated areas. Is that down to over excitement or the fact that such celebration is far safer on a terrace?
In summary, I find it hard to criticise any Walsall fan who travelled in a monsoon to create a fantastic atmosphere yesterday. But I do understand why people get annoyed at the forced homogeneity of modern away watching, especially on a rare day where space is very tight and everyone’s rather excited.
Agreed. The atmosphere was fantastic, the noise ear splitting - no doubt carried on the wind to all parts of Vale Park!
But to go back to the purpose of the thread, I draw the line at flares and smoke bombs. Everyone knows they are banned, with good reason, but some on this site (on the Crewe thread) and in the stand yesterday, still reckon they add to the colour and atmosphere of the game.
And I agree with you that I think yesterday was atmosphere enough without the need for a minute of red smoke.
Again though, I think there’s room for a conversation. At the moment they are banned, illegal and therefore carry consequences for individual and club alike. I don’t know why someone would risk a ban for a minute of red smoke. Just don’t do it. But I do think where the conversation could take place is around the middle ground. Most of what we see are flares rather than the hyperbolic pyros. Flares that are actually designed to be held aloft without endangering the safety of the holder or those around them. So I’d have no issue if some guidelines and rules were put around the holding of flares at certain times and in certain areas or the ground (e.g not during the game and in a certain “party” section).
Where we are absolutely aligned is in the throwing of them. You shouldn’t go to a match and think about chucking anything. From coins to stones to flares. Stupid and dangerous. So I’ll back track a bit on my original post and say that I’d criticise just one or two of those there yesterday. The flare thrower (s). Silly silly.
Yet people have decided to have a go at people celebrating goals The world is mad though, a bit of fun and people look down on it. (That’s in reference to those celebrating not pyros). No wonder everyone’s miserable.
I don’t get you. The disruption on the pitch is the same, regardless of the age of the fan base. If you’re saying other counties have had to normalise it because it’s so common, then, to me, that’s a failing, not something to be followed.
The world is mad though, a bit of fun and people look down on it. (That’s in reference to those celebrating not pyros). No wonder everyone’s miserable.
