The Group

Plenty of criticism and demands for Sadlers head and some, in my opinion at least, OTT criticism of Trivela.

What about the group though?? With all the criticism of the above they seem to be absolved and as ever in these situations it’s the manager who always kops it ultimately. Surely we can expect more of them. People say Sadler has lost the dressing room, I’m not convinced that is the case but if it is surely the group should be ashamed, they are employed and play for Walsall Football Club, not Mat Sadler.

What are you defining as ‘The Group’?

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Problem is we have players who are not good enough on the pitch like Lopata and players who are more than good enough like Chang sitting in the stands

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Thats very Walsall these days then…..

The players available for selection

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Yes, there have been lots of player errors recently that have contributed to our poor run.

Player errors yes but I think they’re also being ran into the ground with this awful style of football. Physically and probably mentally they are tired, tired yet again by the half way point. Yet it’s Sadler who won’t change it and just hopes it’ll start working again whilst all the time every other club is seeing more and more of how they can first of all stop us and secondly beat us.

This ‘group’ is better than the football they currently play.

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I’d be interested to know how true that is. It is a valid theory. I don’t know how you could prove it.

I’m not saying you’re wrong.

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Matt Jordan needs to make himself known in the next few weeks especially if Sadler is dismissed.

I think this is what I’d like to see next from the Trivela PR drive.

Guy is seemingly dictating the club philosophy yet to the best of my knowledge has never given an actual interview. He must be at Essington quite a bit so why? Too camera shy?

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It’s been seen in quite a few games this season where we have a small spell of playing it on the ground that we create some chances and it’s the same players.

Yesterday was a perfect example.

We were dire for the 1st half and came out 2nd half with no changes and it continued. There then came a 5-10 minute spell where we started playing it on the deck and we immediately created chances and looked better. At that stage there still hadn’t been any changes, meaning the same group of players that had looked awful were capable of playing a lot better just with a different approach. We had some momentum at that stage.. then the tactical genius neck twitcher suddenly decided changes needed to be made and then put a stop to that. :man_shrugging:

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Give someone else the opportunity to get the best out of these players?

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Yeah that’s how I see it. In the very small spell we have getting it on the floor the players suddenly wake up and look like they enjoy it. I could be completely wrong but I just feel that they can be better than they are with a better style of play.

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Not the first home game this season, he has completely taken the momentum away by making subs. The players always have to take some of the responsibility for poor performances, but he doesn’t help matters a lot of the time.

I have a bit of sympathy for Sadler because I don’t think he has been backed well enough the past two January’s when we have been in a strong position, but at this point I am sick of watching crap like that.

Have been talking with my boys tonight and I think we are going to go to a few local non league games instead of Walsall home games unless there is a change. It’s not worth the money it is costing to watch such rubbish.

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King crod is Sadler why can’t you see it.

I understand where you are coming from, BS, but we really can’t afford to lose diehard fans like yourself! What are Trivela doing to our club?!!

Not losing me, definitely not. Just doing something a bit different and maybe enjoyable.

It’s more the kids the club should be worried about losing. Two potential (almost certain) young life long fans. Both bored to tears with it.

Not in question that the January windows have been a debacle for us and the leadership simply doesn’t learn - that said, Sadler has zero sympathy from me because players that are way better than some of those on the pitch last Monday, are sat on their backsides whilst we watch this turgid rubbish…

At the risk of sounding a bit old school - I know FA coaching badges are vital but in successful (winning) teams, the hearts and minds approach plays an important part too and this is where we are lacking. A part of this is who questions the coach when it’s clearly going wrong? Seemingly in our case, no one….

Or (and I’m clutching at straws here) - is it Jordan making the calls on player selection and it’s a behind closed doors approach - If it is, I reckon as a player, thats a crap way to be employed with a remote entity deciding your time on the pitch..

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Sympathy was probably the wrong choice of word. It isn’t clearing him off any fault.

Hard to know what the set up is regarding Jordan, because the Club won’t give a clear answer. The question was asked in the letter from ISSA and they never responded. It’s a right weird set up if you ask me. I can’t imagine Sadler is that happy about it all but he probably just wanted to get his first job in management, which is most likely why we ended up with Sadler.

Don’t take my post the wrong way, I want Sadler gone but in my mind he is a smaller part of the problem. Eventually he will go one way or another but who knows how many years we will be stuck with Trivela, or worse potentially, cos if they did sell up, how much care would they take to put us in good hands?

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I think… they’ve obviously gone in hard with Sadler, and they have built a friendly and personal relationship with him. I think because they’re ‘new’ owners and not familiar with football - they are making naive mistakes.

I can’t think of any other reason they can deem what’s happened as being acceptable. I think they love him - and view Sadler as Walsall FC.

I think they view sacking him as harming their brand and their ethos. I don’t think they want to admit their naivety and they’ll hold out as long as possible.

It’s depressing.

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Add to that a 2 year payoff that they won’t want to pay or can’t pay.

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