Flynn had 1 & a half seasons, it was more than enough time, stop trying to look for an argument 
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right so changing managers after one season too quick, but one and a bit with someone elseâs squad where you actually did really well too (wasnât a half) more than enough time? Got ya.
Maybe I wouldnât âlook for an argumentâ if I didnât find so much to argue with in what you are saying. You want to have it both ways.
Depends what you mean by current performance. We have veered between fantastic (Bradford, Crewe, Salford) to unacceptable (Wimbledon, Sutton). It is obvious to me that Sadler is experimenting at times this season and bringing players through (Foulkes, Williams) so I judge the performances and results with that in mind. Itâs the closest season thatâs reminded me of Smith who had a similar approach so I have faith that Sadler is working towards some end goal. We are in no danger of going down.
The only thing I think has been unacceptable is playing Matt. I really canât see any justification for that.
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Imagine judging a game where you throw away a two goal lead and got battered for half of it fantastic. Thatâs how low the bar is with Sadler for some.
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Imagine only judging a game by the result, thatâs how poor some are at assessing a football match.
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But Iâm not, I literally just described what happened in the game imagine not being able to discern that from what is typed.
I know youâre having this conversation with El Nombre already, but the first half against Salford was terrible, we got absolutely battered, but admittedly changed it at half time and were great in the second.
Crewe was another one - gave away a 2 goal lead after a good half.
I want to work out how we can see it from such different angles, but I think our expectations are just very different. Again, not a dig, I just canât see what youâre seeing at all - not that youâre wrong, I just donât see it.
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Imagine having a generally sound understanding of the game but wanting an argument so badly that you ignore the fact you know damn well a game ebbâs and flows, and that a team 2-0 down will throw men forward in an effort to salvage it, and know damn well that a team 2-0 up will end up too deep, conceding possession even when they know that doesnât help, and damn well that sometimes enough pressure can result in points being won or lost by fluke goals in injury timeâŚ.and still not recognising it as a genuinely positive performance because of it.
No no, you have to ignore when you get battered for an entire half apparently. That makes it a âfantasticâ performance.
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I think you have to look at performances as a block of games, or trend. If youâre performing great but throw a lead away, itâs quite different to doing it when you think there are warning signs that the manager doesnât have enough control of the situation.
For me, itâs concerning within the greater context of very poor discipline, conceding early, players seeming too comfortable with the manager, performances declining and the manager not once criticising clearly poor decisions from players when we donât win while praising every player on the pitch without caveat every time we win.
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I really think this is a gross exaggeration at this moment in time.
Incremental improvements is a grand promise? Iâd suggest itâs quite the opposite.
Thatâs not how I remember it.
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There are absolutely no guarantees or formula for appointing managers , just look at Portsmouth they appointed a complete rookie. manager in John Moushino who hadnât even been a full on coach at Oxford , and certainly never played in the Premier league , and they are currently flying .
Just imagine this forum if he hsd been appointed here .
I really hope that Sadler succeeds but I am realistic enough to know that he needs to improve the general performance of the team .
I do think that some of the stuff posted on here about Sadler is frankly ridiculous and some of it bordering on being unnecessarily personal .
I have no answers as to how long he should be given but also aware that changing the management every season is not as shown over the last few years a great plan.
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In those games we created lots of chances and got men into the box and scored 7 goals. Looking at just those games I think most people would say thatâs good enough. Im not quite sure what people expect on top of that.
Of course the problem is we havenât done do so in every game. I can understand why fans find this frustrating.
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Eh? In the Salford game they had twice as many attempts as we did. We didnât control possession in any of them. We had 7 attempts all game against Bradford, which is low even by our own standards in other games.
Well, not chucking away two goal half time leads would be nice I suppose.
I think the biggest problem is we have hardly done it at all. We are talking about 3 possibly 4 halves out of 12 full matches where we have looked alright.
It feels like because we were so drab and boring last season that because we have created one or two chances here and there you feel that is something to cling on to. I know you are more intelligent than that but I havenât really seen what you are seeing. In my honest opinion, all in all we have just been shite again.
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Well I think thatâs a bit unfair. Morecambe, Stockport, Wrexham, Grimsby, Colchester are all ok performances.
I understand fans want success, I do too, but this season is just a Work in Progress so itâs just going to be a collection of mixed results and performances. I donât see how whining will change that.
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Maybe a touch unfair but not much. We were absolutely dreadful at Wrexham, I mean come on letâs remember the aim of the game.
Iâm not whining, itâs just an opinion the same as you have one which isnât helping anyone either as far as I know.
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We absolutely werenât. The defending was poor but we had some really good spells in that game.
Itâs easy to find sticks to beat Walsall with but there are positives to take from the season so far.
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Wrexham was far from a complete performance and Iâm not saying by any means we were robbed or deserved more than we got but as a performance we actually dominated long periods of the game and went more than toe to toe.
Individual errors cost us a result but there were pleasing periods within the game for sure.
It definitely wasnât a horror show, unless of course expectations were higher than realistic.
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