W 2-1 vs Mansfield Town (H) - League Two - Sat 17th Feb, 3pm

Where I disagree with you is that I really do not understand how you can think that the squad, selection and tactics largely are working. We are 16th in the Fourth Division. This has been another season without progress, or with any promise of future progress, since our standard of play in general has been so poor. That is why I say it has been a failure.

Since 1960 we have never been in such a bad run as we are now. Previously the worst spell in my experience was the Kenny Hibbitt era from 1990 to 1994 when we finished 16th, 15th, 5th and 10th in this division. That was when the club was broke, and on the verge of bankruptcy. After Hibbitt was sacked, Chris Nichol came in and won automatic promotion in his first season. Sadler is not going to be anywhere near achieving that.

I am not going to argue with about how many points we will have at the end of the season, except to say that the most likely number is 62, and that it is unlikely to be outside the range 54-70.

We were very lucky on Saturday when we won despite our defenders giving Mansfield lots of golden opportunities. While I was delighted with the win, I was concerned at how poorly we defended - bad defenders don’t become good defenders just because opposition forwards miss open goals, and referees don’t award a goal when the ball has crossed the line.

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While in principle, I agree with Clough - and that’s as far as the technology should go (no VAR please), I am not totally convinced that it was over the line. Looking over someone’s shoulder I caught a quick glimpse of a photo of the incident on t’internet (which I cannot find) and while it looked over the line, I tried to judge, in the way that the TV does, what it might look like from a linesman’s perspective. It seem to me that it was one of those where the ball, was almost completely over the line, but not completely.

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Yes we were lucky Saturday but I have seen a number of games where we have been unlucky. The non award of a clear penalty against FGR and the hitting the posts twice against Harrogate come immediately to mind. Maybe Saturday was due!

The ā€˜goal’ that wasn’t given makes up for the ā€œgoal that wasn’tā€ which was given against Evans. No technology at all please, it ruins the game’s spontaneity. The rub of the green and human error balance out over time I’ve always found.

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Just for you:


The reason that the linesman couldn’t see if it crossed the line is because Farquharson is stood in his line of sight. The ref couldn’t see it either because of the crowd between him and the incident. And if neither of those could see the ball crossing the line then it isn’t a goal. A goal can’t be given if the officials didn’t see it. (not in this league anyway)

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It’s not a goal, for a goal 100% of the ball has to be conclusively over the line. Correct decision, move on.

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The fact that the ball is behind Jackson’s leg which itself is behind the goal line doesn’t persuade you then?

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Mmm, to me it looks conclusively over the line

Mind you, it looks like there’s a kink in the goal line too !

Dave or Ray?

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I can’t be totally convinced no, there may be a fraction of the ball that’s on the line and if there’s doubt the referee rightly should err on thew side of caution and not give the goal.

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Look again. You can see that Smith’s foot, and all of his leg, is behind the line, and the ball is behind his knee. I am not sure why our goalkeeper has positioned himself so deep into the goals, but he is at present riding his luck.

I think his right ā€˜ball’ is closer to the line than the actual football KingCrod. But as you say, it wasn’t given, move on, mind you if it was us I am sure there would be a fair few more posts discussing how it was Mat’s fault…

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For those that don’t understand the side that has the NET is the goal side .:flushed: the other side is the in play bit .

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It looked clearly in at the time, almost everyone near me was laughing at how we had got away with something so blatant. If it was the other way round and it was our ā€œgoalā€ we’d be screaming blue murder at the injustice.
I doubt it will stop Mansfield going up, but quite amusing all the same.

On Saturday from where I sit I couldn’t say one way or the other but looking at the picture it looks fully over the line

Looks like Farquharson knew what he was doing to me

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Justice for the Rochdale goal last season

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I’m all for keeping technology out of the game!

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It was over the line but at least there was some uncertainty and the officials were unsighted. For the Evans one, it was not even close - not only was the whole ball not over the line, no part of it was!

Unofficially It was definitely over.BUT I’m gonna use that classical manager’s quote ā€œfrom were I was sitting I couldn’t tellā€ :wink::joy::joy: