Confidence in Trivela?

Same here, off the field Trivela have made a big impact hopefully that rolls over to success on the pitch.

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Off the field completely agree on the field the jury is still out for me from some of the wages I’ve been told we are paying some players and members of staff still seems we won’t push the boat out on that side. I’ll change my mind if we sign Bennett though :joy::joy:

Total confidence for me.

If we are attracting half-decent players and still paying normal wages, then I think that counts as a positive.

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Fair comment I do think our signings have been better this year

Where is the option for trust in trivela, but absolutely zero confidence in Pombear, Mole and Gamble?

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Hear hear

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Some posters will change their opinion
as soon as we lose a few games. For me, regardless, its positive steps. But these are steps that simply had to be taken, there was only one way we were going before Trivela stepped in.

For all the people that continually call League 2 a ā€˜poor league’, the division is frightening this year. Football has moved at an incredible pace and the fact all these changes have set us up for a mid table season shows how football continued to move one way, and Walsall FC the other, before Ben took a punt.

Not blown away - but the alternative to Trivela is not worth thinking about. Its how Trivela now build and hopefully learn from mistakes that will be crucial. Last season there were some of the old Walsall mistakes and these need to go as Trivela wrestle full control from the usual suspects.

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I voted full confidence, what is the alternative to Trivela?..:anguished:

Always had full confidence in them, Its why I brought a season ticket for the first time in years.
We are in for some good years with them. Just please dont panic if we only have 1 point after 3 games. Its a long term plan

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99.9% confidence for me. Love what they’ve done for the club so far - particularly re: freehold, transfers and little touches like the the season ticket gift pack.

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Confidence in what? That they genuinely want to improve and grow the football club? In that regard, full confidence.

Confidence that they have the know how? Far from convinced.

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On what basis are you far from conviced they have the know how?

Their back ground, and what I have seen on the pitch so far, as well as being slightly underwhelmed with our business this summer (not just transfers, but the managerial appointment).

To be honest I’m not sure anybody can say they do have confidence in their know how without it being thoroughly rose tinted. They have had one year running a football club (pretty bang-average one as well).

NO THIS IS NOT SAYING THEY WONT SUCCEED, I’m saying I couldn’t confidently say they will.

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Undecided for me. However delighted with some of the squad building this summer and the positive off the field stuff. They clearly tried to do things on the cheap last season. Appalling signings not fit for efl presumably because of a very poor financial envelope. It’s clear though lessons have been learnt. For example u23 players ā€˜offered to us for free’ appear to be a thing of the past.

I’m liking it

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You always leave yourself some wriggle room don’t you? :joy:

No, I have to be clear so I don’t get into nonsense debates, responding to odious crap. Sometimes block capitals isn’t enough for some though …

Usually with you it’s THING ā€˜A’ with a fully quoted argument and a small sentence buried in the middle saying thing b may also occur, which you fall back on when the THING A you were so adamant about is proven to be merely conjecture on your part.

But apparently that’s other people causing nonsense debates. :person_shrugging:

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Cheers for illustrating how things are so easily misunderstood, leading to people getting all worked up about something I never said in the first place.

The question was ā€œDo you have CONFIDENCE in Trivela?ā€ (To keep it on topic and not get dragged into the odious bullshit I was referring to).

Confidence would imply you are certain of something. Am I absolutely certain? No (and I’d not really see how anybody can be to be honest).

Do I think they have the clubs best interest at heart? Absolutely. Do I think they genuinely want to grow the club? Without doubt (would be a pretty shit investment if they didn’t). Do I think there’s more chance with them at the helm than there was with Pomlett and the rest of the Bonser cast offs (remember when I didn’t blindly just believe everything they said, and had no confidence they could achieve it btw? :thinking:)? Yeah I’d say so.

Do I have confidence they will achieve it? I’d need to see a lot more than I did last season before having any level of confidence in it.

So yeah, maybe people should read part B because I’m usually trying to explain why you shouldn’t get so butt hurt about part A :+1:t3:

As for this bollocks:

Just saying it doesn’t make it true. Been pretty bang on the money whilst listening to this same shit for years :sleeping:

Literally Block Captials :joy::joy:

This is becoming one of my new bugbears on here, people redefining the meaning of words in order to prove an argument (for which proof is usually irrelevant, as said argument is usually based on opinion and therefore doesn’t require proof in order to be expressed).

The word ā€œconfidenceā€ has nothing to do with certainty, nor does it imply it.
In fact the use of the word confidence in context almost always arises in the literal absence of certainty or evidence that an outcome will be certain, and hence the requirement to have ā€œfaithā€, or a sense of ā€œbeliefā€ in an outcome or process. In the context of Trivela for example, you could quite happily denounce their first year of ownership of Walsall FC has having been a failure but at the same time have confidence (ie. a belief based on something other than existing evidence) that they will ultimately succeed, or at least succeed more than they will fail. Likewise in the case of a signed player you could express confidence they will go on to be successful without any evidence of previous success in their career, or even against a backdrop of previous failure. You can freely express confidence that a failing situation will be ā€œturned aroundā€ not by looking for evidence of success in the failed body of work but by having faith in a future outcome.

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