Absolutely. I agree. My point is that it is good to see such diverse opinions, even if I don’t agree with the doom-mongers.
Yeah but that comment alone is up there with Gensanx suggesting Mat Sadler couldn’t focus on being a manager while running an estate agents!! 
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The fact some people think how the cash was sourced makes any different to the point blows mine
But nah, putting our prices up and piling resources into another club is sound 
glad everyone’s ok with it.
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Yeah it’s like having two business interests has never been done before
People were very bothered about the extra curricular personal interests of our owners in the past, never mind business 
Not seen a single reason yet why I should give a shit what their business model is outside of Walsall FC
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My biggest disappointment with Trivela is that two/three years in there isn’t really, aside from a few wooly soundbites, a real plan as to how they aim to grow the football club and make it a sustainable top end L1/Championship club. Without that there isn’t really anything to buy into, and no discernible measure of what success looks like. I’ve posted on here a couple of times the plans and mission statement issued by the Stockport owners a few years ago, and I found it interesting because Stockport and Walsall are similar sized towns (1’st and 2’nd population wise I believe) and face similar challenges given the far more successful clubs on the respective doorsteps. The ground’s are also a similar capacity.
While Stockport have made no bones about filling the stadium each week, we still seem stuck on Pomlett’s 5k “donkey tail” which as we all know puts us about half way up the fourth division in modern terms, and is miles off anything that looks like sustainable top end L1 or Championship. The days of having a mini-league of half a dozen smaller clubs on 5-6k gates aiming to survive at Championship level finished about 20 year ago, and the same can probably be said now for top end L1.
My fear as regards the way Trivela seem to go about their business, fuelled by looking at the conversations and answers at the fans forum from those that were there, is that they’re none too keen to tell us what success looks like, because to do so would by definition tell us what failure looks like, and we can’t have that incase the “f word” puts too much pressure on people and ruffles feathers. Hmmmm…all looks a bit stodgy to me. Certainly not as overtly self-serving in the way that Bonser and his acolytes were, but equally certainly nowhere near as dynamic as I’d hoped by now.
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Some good points there Geordie, but for example, the appointment of Ben Sadler suggests they want to grow attendances, does it not?
In the same meeting they said they were fine with ticket sales being down because the price rise counteracted it. Doesn’t scream growing the attendance to me.
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I work in M&A and trust me it takes a lot of resource, but yep you’re the expert as usual. 
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Havn’t heard much from him yet have we?
He spoke at the fans forum and he’s responsive on twitter. Early days, but his first impressions on me are good.
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But if your intention is to do little, contantly being at the new dawn of something is a very convenient distraction. Since Bonser left we’ve had two takeovers and four managers if you count Dutton. In growing the football club terms I would have expected a lot more meat on the bones of what Trivela are about by now.
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Why what’s he specifically said about it? It’s just a CEO unless he produced some dramatic out of the box thinking regarding increasing attendances at Morecambe, interested to see what they did last few seasons.
Let’s see what offers are on as the season goes on to try to entice lapsed fans or new supporters from local areas. The opposition on here recently to the suggestion of prayer rooms in the ground suggests that won’t be quite as straight forward as you see at premier league or top end championship grounds which have them and also sensory rooms for Neurodiverse supporters.
Increasing attendances is simple, get exciting players out there who can create and score goals. Seriously pushing for top 3 around March/April and they’d be 6-7k at every home game no issue.
Matt and Gordon aren’t that, instead I’d argue a few fans probably haven’t renewed seeing those are the star striker signings with less than two weeks to go to the start. Plus DJ hardly getting a kick for months last year.
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Yes it’s a bit of supposition on my part based on how morecambe increased attendances
And at harrigate
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Then you’ll know that if it takes a lot of resource, you’ll resource it properly.
It’s not rocket science pal
Are not connected, unless you think they’re syphoning money off to use in Ireland. 
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Sorry yeah, forgot. Money Trivela makes is totally different to the money they have to spend. Gotcha.
Besides it’s also a principle thing, but I’m bored of explaining that to people who would literally defend anything the club do.
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Nice post. I wonder if Stockport benefit from having two mega clubs on the doorstep, while we have several clubs that are bigger but not so big that the average Joe is priced out.
Anyway you pretty much summed up my feelings on Trivela so far.
That’s an excellent comment.