Interesting that when you look back at old posts At least Geasanx123 was in agreement for once with his sparring partner and adversary on Freddie ,who as early as September said some on here were exaggerating his contribution and even said he wouldnāt have signed him .
I remember those posts too but it was a fairly common view amongst our fans. I remember one fan telling me he was too slow and we were wasting our money. I wish he was our player . Lincoln are going to get a huge fee and good for them .
Donāt think I would agree with that .
Iāll repeat myself, the first 10 minutes of seeing him play in the game against Rochdale to remember Wayne Evans, I said that we had got in a good player and was wishing he was a signing rather than a loan.
I didnāt either. I was impressed from the first time I saw him but I am not usually very good in assessing players early.
Then there was this:
Coxy knew! Sad heās not posted for ages.
But at that moment I believe people were exaggerating his contribution.
It was a moment in time. That moment is different to now. In three months time it may be different again.
Not rating a player at all is completely different to having the opinion that heās not playing well or didnāt have a good gameā¦.or even if he is playing ok or well but not necessarily deserving of adulation, which is what I believe I personally may have been saying at that moment.
Iāve also been quite clear on several occasions when he has been worthy of itā¦.obviously yesterday but also on less obvious occasions.
Perhaps you misunderstood what I said .I meant I donāt think it was a common view amongst our fans .my recollection was the majority thought we had a gem on our hands as I did .
People, including myself may jump to the wrong conclusions about players (not Freddie by the way) just because heās so young or we havenāt heard of them before, we need to own up and say we were wrong.
Maybeā¦
Iām not alone Iām not thinking early season that heās have this type of impact. My point is always that itās easy to get carried away and early season I felt some were guilty of that.
Freddie was outstanding a couple of weeks ago (I canāt recall the game but I said so that day and got pulled up on it as though Iād said I wasnāt a good player) and he was outstanding again last night, but early season there werenāt the signs that heād hit 15 goals by Xmas. Iām happy to be proved wrong but my point was always that he was young and managing his game time was important and that at that time rating him now and again wasnāt going to be the disaster some felt it would be.
Missing Sutton and FGR almost proves the point that rest at the right times will be key to his formā¦.obviously resting him Tuesday wonāt be an option but I think we have options for times when it would be a good idea.
Iām not sure if thatās aimed at me but Iām equally very sure that I wasnāt wrong about him I was just of the opinion that at a moment in time several weeks ago I didnt feel he was in the same form he is nowā¦.which kind of isnāt an opinion itās more of a fact.
I donāt disagree with any of that just saying I think others saw a lot more potential in him to make an impact for we than you did after a few games for us .and you also said you would probably not have signed him.Iām very glad we did .
Mature performance last night and knows how to handle himself. Got a knock and was taking some stick from the Newport fans for staying down a bit but didnāt get wound up just scored the equaliser in the last minute. Pity he will be gone at xmas
To be fair, this happens a lot, and not just with Walsall fans.
There seems to be a tendency from some fans to automatically class players as rubbish if they havenāt personally heard of them.
Usually the same fans that every time an ex-player becomes available are clamouring to bring them back simply because they know them from their previous stint at the club. Same goes for suggesting ex-players as management contenders.
As for Freddie, heās now scored the same amount of goals for us as he did for Droghedaā¦ but in almost half the amount of games.
And interestingly, despite his last game in Ireland being 4 months ago, he appears to still be Droghedas top scorer and in the top 10 scorers in the Irish Premier.
And you wouldnāt personally have signed him .
@Thanatos we canāt be right about every player can we. I have heard you once or twice mention about being right about Liam Kinsella.
I remember being told i know nothing about football because i said Draper was the best striker at the club.
Yeah fair enough. I wouldāve anticipated 5 goals by Xmas and possibly a bit part.
I think my comment on me not signing him was more in respect of a post I made about the forwards in general.
I wouldnāt have signed 5 and so if weād known weād were getting DJ AND Oteh Iām not sure Freddie wouldāve been on the radarā¦Iām not sure anyone wouldāve seen him playing ahead of DJ but I was among the first to point out that I did t see much of a connection between them as a partnershipā¦.
See above. It was a separate post about our forwards in general not anything to do with how he was playing or his potential future impact.
I donāt think he is.
Heās had a very good start, and has earnt his placeā¦ but I donāt think DJ has had the same opportunities.
Not saying heās a bad player, but sort of an extension of what @CompletelySaddled was saying; itās still very very early and a very small sample. If he knocks in 15 by Jan then Iāll upgrade my opinion.