Panic and hysteria

But if changes and improvements are being made with all other facets of the business eventually the results on the pitch will start to mirror that.

The problem is as fans we are actually only interested in the shop window but we have to accept the business owners have to take care of what goes on behind that first.

If you own a bakers, all people are interested in is how the cakes taste……but unless someone’s investing in a better kitchen, with better ovens, more expensive ingredients, more / more skilled staff, a better process of baking you won’t get any improvements. But you can’t make the cakes taste better first and then take care of the other stuff.

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But that’s exactly how it should be right?

It’s a sports entertainment business, the rest is irrelevant to most.

Of course. As a fan absolutely.

But there also needs to be an appreciation and understanding of how that’s best going to happen…as well as appreciating the starting point.

We’ve all heard the analogy of putting the roof on before you’ve built the foundations….we all understand that…but I do appreciate that as a fan what really matter is how good the roof is!!

But if you look at most failing businesses (football clubs) they’re the result of poor management off the pitch in the first instance…

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Of course and that would be more acceptable, if we hadn’t been going through this for the past 5 years.

The fans have had enough, we should respect that.

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Thats the important thing fans need to understand Trivela wasnt part of the last 5 years.

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But Pomlett, Mole and Gamble have been here for how long Mr obvious?

They are driving the change lol, along with the Yanks who know nothing about British football.

Knowing us, we’d have paid the receiving club to take DJ off our wage bill!!

How many time does this have to be spelt out, surely people are not that blind :man_shrugging:t3:

I can appreciate the need for incremental progress and future planning, but I’m not sure it’s effective as a main selling point to supporters. That kind of talk should stay mostly behind the scenes, maybe with a clue to keep us excited, but I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest most of us who have bought a season ticket or plan to spend money in the coming months are more interested in the season coming up.

When I buy a match ticket, I want a good game that day. It shouldn’t have to be with the condition that things will be better at some point in the future if I show some patience. I don’t want to have to show patience, because I’m - and I know this is a dirty word round here but ultimately it’s true - a customer.

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It’s mind numbing.

I get that. But that’s the result of piss poor management off (and on!!) the pitch over a period of time.

The problem now is, frustrations are at an all time high, but for Trivela they’re picking up the pieces and trying to start their process from a very low point….and they’re carrying the can and feeling the heat from fans, for previous….

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This :100:

It’s a fast game mate , they’ve had a full season. Expectations will be high next season and rightly so.

Our previous managers were not shown such patience.

Yep, increments are as well as, not instead of.

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But the one thing you rarely get in football is time. Most fans want instant success. We have been so patient over the last 7 years, trying to maintain our interest whilst being fed a few scraps of achievement by the club. We’ve been like a junky desperate for a fix, thrown a few tabs by our dealer. But the addiction to Walsall FC is starting to fade for many of us, hence so many people not renewing their season tickets.

We shouldn’t be losing to the likes of Barrow and Sutton on a regular basis, we should be funding a squad of players to challenge for promotion in Division 4 at the very least. Let’s see some real ambition for once. I’m starting to think we should have kept Monthe, White and Maddox - I doubt we will get any better the way things are going. Roll on the new season :woozy_face:

Made more of a go of it than we have.

It’s quite funny, you don’t rate their owners for still being in League 2 despite them quite clearly going for it.

Yet you worship the ground Trivela walk on despite us doing far less than Mansfield.

They had our pants down.

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It is, but people are screaming for news and to be kept in the loop - it’s a no win.

Yes of course. I get that. But that’s just the place we find ourselves. We can’t get the horse before the cart.

We all want to watch good games of football preferably winning games of football. But in order to get that on a more regular basis things need to be better off the pitch in order to provide it.

There are so many facets of a football club that indicate improvements long long before the evidence is on the pitch for fans to see by way of results.

That’s not Walsall that’s not Trivela that’s just a fact of life.

Even recently we look at Stockport as though it’s overnight success. It’s not. It’s the beginning of seeing some evidence of lots of hard work behind the scenes that no one saw….4 years ago.

There is no such thing as instant or overnight success. Everything tangible is the result of hard work sacrifice and dedication long before we see evidence of it.

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Imagine this Trivela have been in charge of Walsall fc for 13 years and we still find ourselves in the same league as when they took over, Walsall fans would have had the pitchforks out by now.

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Sure I’ve already mentioned this , Stockport spent silly money. Their success wasn’t all from some radical change.

That’s just what they want you to believe.

They had a huge unfair advantage with the squad they had.

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There was and is a very very well structured plan behind their (relative) success. It was documented in detail on here recently.