Prayer Room

Oh dear.

Just a very pointless post by yourself wasn’t it? What was its purpose?

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I’m absolutely no expert but when you say, violent rhetoric, is that so in relation to the ā€˜storied’ actions of people rather than the stated intentions/guiding principles of the religion itself?

Where do the guiding actions come from?

I’m not debating it, merely expressing an opinion and you’ve taken some of my words and re-positioned them to suit your question…

No, just pointing out it’s not just those with power, that power comes through the violence and suppression of people given the bible and other holy texts.

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You’re not seriously suggesting there’s any connection between the prayer room and

Are you? I’m confused what point you are making.

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No, how you could conclude that … is beyond me.

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My comment was in relation to the idea that the core tenets of religion provoke racism and dislike of other faiths; I don’t think that is the case.

The term ā€˜Cultural Christians’ is often used nowadays, often by the people you refer to. As you say, these people are not active practitioners of their faith but frequently equate their cultural background with their ā€˜whiteness’.

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Ok. That’s fine.

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As far as the bible is concerned you are right. The Old Testament is basically a history of the Jewish people embellished with lots of myths and legends but the faith takes its name from Jesus Christ whose life is described mainly in the Gospels. Many Christians try to live their lives based on his teachings which were about peace and love.
I don’t know enough about the Quran to make comments on that but the Muslims I know do many good works in our local community.

I’m a fan of the late Christopher Hitchens.
He had no time for any religion but he observed that whilst Christianity had undergone reformation over the centuries and had become more accommodating of the realities of the world over time,
Islam, around 600 years later on the scene, has never undergone a similar process.
Islam also has the problem as defining the Quran as the final, definitive and unalterable revelation of God (Allah).

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I don’t think you can cherry pick the best bits… it’s all or nothing if it was written (influenced) by the Holy Spirit right?

Same with the Quran and any other text.

You clearly didn’t listen when RE was taught at school or it was taught badly. To be a Christian means trying to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ whose basic message was one of love and peace . That is what most Christians try and do.

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Aren’t you literally cherry picking the worst bits to generalise your position on religion? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Yep, sure. You cannot cherry pick the best bits out of the bible though.

Unfortunately, it’s all or nothing.

So for example, I take it that if you don’t now follow the Old Testament, you don’t believe God created the heavens and earth? You don’t believe in Adam and Eve, Moses, the Garden of Eden, Abraham etc?

Of course you do.

Nope, just saying it’s not all sunshine and canapĆ©s.

Don’t try and tell me what I believe…I don’t tell you what to believe. I haven’t got the time or the energy to write you a treatise on the Christian faith so I will leave it there.It is a subject that demands better than a few exchanges on a football website! I am happy with my life which has been made richer by my faith. You are obviously very happy with your life and that is good.

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as a christian, i wont use it, probably. But i think its great for the community; our neighbours and anyone that comes to visit.

dont understand the uproar from some vocal m"ongs on FB (WFHYS Included).

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Anyway, the club have provided one for those who want to use it, to try and appeal to a larger audience and to maybe encourage others to come who may have had to think twice because of their beliefs/needs. If ones don’t want to use it, then don’t, simples! It’s a bit like the toilets, they are there if you need them in your hour of need but, if you don’t need them, then don’t use them, but don’t criticise those who have a smaller bladder than you and need to pay a visit!!

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