Crewe played how all teams play nowadays
It’s modern football to try manipulate the referee!
We do it , Sunday league do it, Barcelona do it .
Some teams are better at getting away with it than others that’s all
Refereeing is a horrible job.
Having tried it a couple of times, many years ago when I lived in Manchester, I vowed never again.
The constant whinging from players and those on the sidelines was horrible.
Remember one defender moaning about an offside I hadn’t given that was “half a yard offside” apparently…
This resulted in a mini meltdown from a very cheesed off ref, pointing out the fact that there were no linesman.
TBF, I considered sending myself off for the languages and abuse…
Definitely never again, too old now anyway!
But it’s also about the management of people.I think this guy yesterday lacked any sort of management skills, empathy, understanding of things.
But yes - respect also key.
Yes, I’m not defending the refs performance yesterday, he stunk the place out, I just was trying to point out players and managers also have a responsibility.
As you say, respect is important, respect for the ref but for the game as well.
I agree with your post entirely.
We were actually on the opposite end of it more yesterday, but we do our fair share. I have mentioned Jamile Matt and his antics a few times recently. He rarely looks to play the ball, pulls and wrestles players, and spends half the game complaining he has been fouled. He didn’t do it as much yesterday, but I noticed Lowe backing in and expecting to get fouls and then looking bemused when a foul was given against him. It’s so blatant.
The ref yesterday lost control of the game and probably blew the whistle early to just put an end to it all, Crewe had no interest in playing any football at that point and was just clinging on to their point any way they could.
One of the many things I enjoyed about Ray Graydon’s time with us, he got the players to behave. I’m sure once that reputation spread it won us a few decisions here and there. Not sure if you would get away with it in today’s game without being eaten alive. There are ways it can be stopped, by laws being put in place and stuck to. Unfortunately I don’t see it happening.
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Jamma definitely did Demetriou on that one where he got booked. Jamma gives us a real presence and focal point up top. Having a very good season so far.
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Yeah I’m not trying to knock his performances. Just that it is very difficult for refs when a lot of the game is deciding who has pulled or pushed who first.
He is lasting a lot later in games before he begins to look dead on his feet now. Definitely a big part of how we play.
Yeah it’s difficult for the ref I totally agree but that really was an awful performance from him yesterday.
…Even educated fleas do it
Let’s do it, let’s fall in love. 
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Our disciplinary record was impeccable under SMITH
I used to get enough grief just being lino let alone ref and that was from my own team! They used to hate when I was lino because I always tried to be fair and impartial where as a lot of opposition managers certainly didn’t.
Saw one manager running the line flag us when our player had run with ball from our half and he had 4 players between him and the goal and no our player hadn’t sprinted back 40 yards from an off-side position to receive the ball in our half🤣
The ref gave it as well and he was still better than yesterday’s.
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We went almost 2 years without being awarded a penalty away from home. This only changed when Colin Lee took over and the playets were allowed to moan at the referee again.
He was excellent yesterday
My lad played yesterday and on the pitch next to us was an U15 game of our clubs team v a team sporting the name of a local non-league team. Whilst I wasn’t paying large amounts of attention to that game, what I did witness was the referee send off the lineman who was the manager of the non-league team. Due to being sent off he had to vacate the area and the way he conducted himself was rather embarrassing which led to his team of youths showing a complete lack of respect.
The game restarted until there was an injury and the chap who had been sent off reappeared to state there was a first aid issue as he was the only adult there responsible for his team. A further mouthful to the referee who had enough and blew the whistle to abandon the game, of which they were winning 
Further choice language was thrown the refs way before everyone went home to hopefully enjoy their Sunday dinners.
I wouldn’t be a ref for a million years. At kids football parents often run the line and the groans and moans from parents when you give an offside when they haven’t put themselves forward to do it is laughable.
I’ll caveat with the note that the ref on Saturday did receive a few choice words chucked his way from myself 
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I played in a works team years ago. I got subbed at half time and was asked to run the line.
I had a rudimentary understanding of the off-side rule. However, every decision I made, the ref over ruled me. Even throw ins at times.
I gave up after twenty minutes and chucked the flag to the nearest spectator and his dog.
At the end of the game he found me out and gave me a right telling off.
I had to resist the temptation to kick him the the knackers, as it was my Moms boss.
Bit harsh on the dog
Would have done a better job than me apparently. 
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Kettle son was way better than kettle dad
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He was and so much better than the guy on Saturday.
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I think a completly biased crewe fan would have been a better ref