I have never said it was all on Sadler. Blame is everywhere, including almost all of the players.
That doesn’t excuse him though. Second season in a row we choked.
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This can’t live in the past, live in the present learn lessons from the past, look forward to the future
O know you haven’t just a general comment as many can’t see past MS as been at fault
Also second season in a row we improved our position
I didn’t say you were happy about it.
I took issue with you saying that there are people in our fanbase who want us to screw up and they’ll be happy if it happens. You may disagree with the way they are voicing their opinion but I think it’s a bit far to accuse them of wanting us to screw up just so they can be right.
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Yes I do disagree with how they are still voicing the same old stuff , .
It’s completely counter productive..
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I mean there are literally reams of posts blaming Sadler, blaming Trivela and not being arsed that players have left. That would lead me to conclude that it isn’t being apportioned just on one party.
If only we had been bang average for the second part of the season we would have gone up as champions with points to spare
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If you disagree with how it’s being voiced then fair enough (to some extent I agree)… but it’s the extrapolation to saying that they want us to screw up that I take issue with.
I’ll try to explain.
I agree that there is a lot of unnecessary negativity across UTS and other social media that is being flooded into threads and posts that are not to do with last seasons capitulation. When you see posts about the Former Players Association, Walsall FC Foundation, Walsall Women FC, even posts on Drogheda pages being used to moan about Sadler and the club in general I think it’s misplaced and inappropriate. Also on posts announcing signings where some of the new players must be wondering what they’ve let themselves in for. I agree in those instances it can be counter productive and not really serve any purpose.
HOWEVER…
I think fans are quite within their rights to still be pissed off about last season and want answers from the powers that be, whether that’s Boycott and B Sadler, Mat Sadler or all of them. Some kind of acknowledgement of what went wrong last season and the part they had to play in it and what they’re going to do to prevent it happening again. And I think that needs to be voiced in the Fans Forum, in the video update we’ve been promised and through supporters groups.
It’s the nature in which it’s been voiced which I disagree with but the sentiment behind it I fully agree with and I am still pretty pissed about it myself. It comes and goes in waves. I thought I’d accepted it, then the fixtures were released and I was like “well this is crap, we shouldn’t even be here”. That’s subsiding again but I wouldn’t be surprised if it rears it’s head again when I’m standing at the top of the Upper just before the kickoff of the first game and thinking “we should be in league one, but we’re not… thanks to half the players on the pitch, the manager who’s still inexplicably in charge and the hierarchy above him that enabled it and stood doing nothing whilst it carried on like a car crash in slow motion”!!!
To be honest, I don’t think I’ll actually get over it fully, until we’re promoted out of this god forsaken division. 
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Great post.
To add, we aren’t going to be waiting at the training ground shouting abuse. It’s a message board. I must admit I am guilty at times of talking off topic on threads. They go in different directions and it is easy to forget what the actual thread is about. I could try harder there.
I’ll give you a tip, don’t look at Wimbledon’s fixtures, I saw them, real kick in the balls.
This site is filled with fans who have followed Walsall all of their lives, including myself. I won’t accept that fans want us to fail so they can be right. I can’t tell you how much fun it was after Crewe away, trying to console my kids. I should have just said, get over it, at least I was right.
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That’s a very good post Steve, however, I am intrigued to know why you think that it’s important that god takes an interest in which league we are playing in, and by inference, you believe he/she /it keeps an eye on results in league one?
Success in football is a team effort and therefore failure must be the same.
Mat Sadler as manager will stand and fall by his decisions which is the same for any manager.
Everyone at the club played their part throughout the season, be it the fantastic run of results or the dreadful collapse of form, apart from the fans whose support was outstanding.
I’m still feeling despondent about how things unraveled and ultimately ended at Wembley which was so disappointing and for me I just need to be at the forum to hear the club’s view.
Many of the team from last season have moved on and are being replaced with new players who had no part in last season’s capitulation.
I most definitely will not be booing or shouting abuse but I will be welcoming our new players and continue doing what I’ve always done, supporting Walsall. Everyone has a choice and that’s mine.
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I have posted that several times
Jesus Christ I really despair at this thinking.
Sadler messed up and it has created a toxicity in the club that will spill over when the season starts.
He is not wanted by most fans
Trivela have done nothing about it and it is festering over the close season but it will not go away it’s getting worse among the fan base.
This will be a big problem when the crowds return.
Sadler has given no indication that he believes he messed up so how do we know that he’s learned anything from glaringly obvious mistakes.
Sadler out
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For me, the collapse last season was due to the powers that be either not wanting, not knowing or not caring how that season ended. Football in this league is slightly different to football in other leagues, so different methods should be employed. Ideally, we would get some honest answers about how we lost that advantage, but I fear it will never happen and all the questions will fade away during the next season.
Totally disagree . Not on trivela for me .It was all on sadlers stubbornness and wearing his team out and not making changes earlier when he needed to get just 1 more win to get us promotion.which should have been achieved comfortably.
So, in that case, where was the reaction when the other managers and coaches started outsmarting him? Perhaps it was a trust issue and believe we made a right choice.
They didn’t act though. They were presumably happy with what he was doing, and still are happy. That is the very least Trivela are at blame for.
Start at the top, and work down.
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I’m not really arsed about any of these players that have left Allen included people acting like he’s some sort of club legend because he’s from Cannock the bloke was good for 18 months then buggered off at the first opportunity he could have stayed and seen out his last year or signed an extension with a release clause like Hutch did but he made it clear he wanted out.
Fook him and the likes of Stirk and Gordon they’ll be forgotten in a couple of seasons anyway.
Players like Walker Buckley Kelly Lightbourne Jorge etc are club legends this lot couldn’t lace there boots.
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Sadler should have gone after the barrow game for me . But for sadler not to get the points required to get us over the line with the options he had was embarrassing for him and trivela i agree.
And at the very least trivela should have pulled the trigger straight after the no show at wembley to give us abit of hope for the new season.
As it stands there is a lot of hatred for sadler and rightly so after his stubbornness cost us a place in league 1 .
He needs a miraculous start to get the supporters interested which is not how it should be .
His days are definitely numbered and then we have a new manager with players he hasn’t signed and will have new ideas of his own .
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