The Liam Kinsella Thread

Bit harsh.

Absolutely spot on. I think many feel or are starting to feel that way.

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I don’t think so. National League is about the same standard as League 2. He’s simply not up to this level of football.

He’s not good enough, neither is his competition.

But he will give you :100: where many won’t.

It’s a Marmite joke.

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I don’t think that is grounds for a side that wants to be promoted - which is why I want us to improve.

Liam Kinsella is fine if you want to be a mid table side L2 side - and maybe that’s what we need to be this season after this start… but if we want to progress and get promoted ? We need better quality midfielders - and that’s the fault of the manager and the recruitment staff.

Love him as a person

Love him as a team player and ambassador

Dislike him as a footballer, he just isn’t good enough and never has been imo
His effort masks his lack of ability bit for me as a first choice midfielder season on season in a midfield that has always been poor and a team who always have less possession than any team he is a key figure of that continuously.
It’s no coincidence

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Can’t hate him at all, the problem is that we can’t have both Comley and Kinsella on the pitch together especially at home if we’re not winning a game.

With the number of midfielders we’ve got at the club, there is no need to have two midfielders paired together that will offer nothing going forward, as it makes us have zero creativity in midfield.

We looked fine yesterday up until Comley was brought on as there was no actual need to bring a defensive midfielder on, at home, for a striker, when the game was 0-0 with Tranmere offering no threat whatsoever.

If the rest of the squad did their jobs as well as Kinsella does we wouldn’t even be debating it.

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That’s my point mate, that’s the real problem .

He isn’t good enough I agree

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Think you’ve actually got a bit mixed up there m8 but hey that’s not unusual is it . If we had 10 other players doing the same as kinsella every week in terms of their footballing ability we would be absolutely battered every game

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Good job players have different roles then, isn’t it.

That’s fine, as long as we accept that’s the case across the board and not isolated to Kinsella. Daniels and possibly Johnson and Bennett are the only top six players in this side, the lack of quality is evident throughout the squad.

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And mine too! Glad we agree.

Myself and others are talking about what this side needs to be get out of this hellscape and league.

Does anyone actually really think Liam Kinsella is good enough to get into a top 7 side?

We need to raise the bar as PT alludes to, and get better quality in. I hope this is what Flynn meant by a number of transfer windows to change this side. The midfield has been an absolute shambles for 5/6 years now, and we both need to recruit there and in another centre forward (at the very least) to compete at the right end of this table.

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Yep, missed this before I replied above.

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I think he’s alright as a player… like many have said pretty much a mid- table player. I also agree that he and Comley shouldn’t be on the pitch together. I think they should be in direct competition and possibly have their games split in an alternating 60/30 mins and see which one wants it the most or fits/plays better

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This has already started, so hopefully will continue. Hasn’t yet made us any more cohesive as a midfield unit though, unfortunately.

I neither hate him or love him. He is an average division 4 footballer.

:neutral_face:

He try’s hard and is a good professional, so that’s a good reflection on him. And he’s a Saddler through and through and leads by example.

If you put someone really dynamic next to him, we could potentially get promoted.

But to get promoted, I think we’d need to replace him too. He’s a good squad player though and can fill in at right back and is better at right back than White.

:person_shrugging:

You can’t fault his commitment and effort and he has those in abundance to make up for his short comings in other areas of his game.

I get others reasons for not wanting him in the team, but until we sign players of better quality, then he stays in. If players of better quality are signed and he then loses his place in the team, so be it. From a sentimental point of view it will be sad, but nothing is forever.

What I don’t get and never have is how some posters totally lambast him.

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At present our ability to attract ‘better’ players appears to be about as good as my winning the Lottery. We are, and are likely to remain, a lower mid table League 2 club until we make the necessary root and branch changes to the club. Injuries have found Flynn out in my view as he seems unable to get a tune out of the players available for selection. Constant tinkering and defence in depth had, I hoped, been consigned to history after our opening day win. So, Kinsella remains likely to play given all that. Whether he should seems academic until we sign ‘better’ players.

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