I agree we have under contract for 2 years a group of players who look about 16th league two.
The league table doesn’t lie
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You have logged onto this site over the last 5 years, haven’t you?!
But it’s meaningless in the big picture the “ build “ 16th 17th whatever. Would the same people who believe that still have that view if we finished 4th 5th “that it means nothing of any consequence” .i don’t think so they would be trumpeting great success “just look at our league position”.
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He is good lad I understand but needs feeding up I hear 
Anyone else remember Trevor Foster? He was about 3 years ahead of me at Leckie and he was put on a diet of steak to try and build him up for league football by Bill Moore.
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I remember him, he was a forward and if memory serves me correctly Bill Moore wanted to turn him into a midfield player.
He seemed to get injured a lot too if I’m not mistaken.
Yes he wasn’t that strong…just tall and thin!
Post of the week, I concur.
I have given up sex and eggs for lent but I could never give up Walsall Football Club.
Look beyond the short term results recently, and I grant you that’s not easy for a passionate supporter of your football club, and there is plenty to be optimistic about.
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Yes, indeed, although he only played about 60 games with a dozen or so goals. We were the only league club he ever played for. A youngster we persisted with but who did not quite make it.
We had some good youngsters in those days (thank you Ron Jukes), including one Allan Clarke a year or two after Foster. These days, a player of his talent would have been scooped up by one of the big clubs at age 8.
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Never change 
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This really is the crux of the argument.
Having “some good players” doesn’t make a successful football team. I’ve posted this before but literally every one of the worst Walsall teams ever boasted “some good players”. Conversely every successful Walsall team also likely had some good uns, along with some bang average and some not so good. Its the galvanising of the inevitable mixed bag into a unit greater than the sum of its parts that Tinned is clearly alluding to and that, coupled with inputing shrewd recruitment of players to fit “the plan” is the job of the football management.
You simply can’t counter an argument that this isn’t happening with the statement “we have some good players”.
Likewise I see, and hear the word “boredom” used more and more to describe the experience of watching the football. And I reluctantly have to say that’s the word, above all others that describes the seasons since relegation. It literally is, save for the odd blip by and large boring.
And that’s a word I would never have associated with Walsall FC even during the darkest days of previous crapness. It brought it home to me reading the “craziest things” thread. Maybe Sadler and the present incumbants who trott out their lame “stick with us” mantra after every turgid display which attracts a modecom of dissent, Oteh being the latest after Newport, should read that thread and realise what little they actually have to do to ignite some interest amonst the fanbase, then reflect that for years they havn’t even managed that.
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Thanks. Eggs I can understand but sex !!!
A bit of a “ treatise “ that on my use of the phrase “ a few good players “. If you think that is extent of my knowledge of the game you clearly haven’t paying attention to my many posts.
I can see what we are building here but many cannot. That is the difference. We now have some good foundations for growth. I stated many times it is now up to Trivela to continue the building in the Summer. 2 decent forwards and physical presence in midfield and we won’t be far away.
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How do yo know what are ‘building’ will be good? 
Well it may not be but that’s part of the fun ! It certainly won’t be if we don’t get some forward strength.
I didn’t say it was indicative of your general knowledge of football, but it was the point that you used to counter Tinned’s post about a lack of a plan. So it deserves scrutiny in that context.
Out of interest, can you back up your argument regarding the alleged ongoing “building for success” by pointing to examples where this has ever been necessary in the pursuit of success in the fourth division? Either at WS1 or any other club? Because I literally can’t think of any apart from maybe Crewe a couple of times over the years, but even that simply involved a manager, a style of play, and a recruitment philosophy that was utterly clear to see and understand.
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I have no qualifications to talk in depth about other clubs. All I can say is that some get lucky and seem to do it from nowhere .Others have been in this division for years. Bradford a club with much greater resources than us being one of them. Mansfield are an interesting case . They will get promotion this year after several years of trying and not insignificant investment . Have they being building or just unlucky not to do it before.? You seem to know !!
What I like about our set up is signing younger players some of whom look really good and extending deals for our better players. Surely much better than the. annual turnover of the past regime.
You will see in my other posts there is still more to be done especially up front. Trivela need to deliver on that.
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I had a build a few years ago “a wall”the builder didn’t use enough cement ( it’s quite expensive) it’s falling apart all sand .think I had the wool pulled over my eyes hope doesn’t happen to you .
Me ? Surely. you mean “us”. Or are you no longer a fan.
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No one is denying what Trivela are building or attempting to build , that has never been in question, the majority of us have faith in Trivela and BB.
The question is with BB putting foundations in place is MS the right foreman for the job. Will he build on the foundations , will we continue treading water season after season or has he got the managerial intenlligence , tactical awareness etc to build upon those foundations , i fear we will continue treading water season after season , people go on about were in a good place already for next season , how are we ?
We have 2 goalkeepers Evans who reminds me of Calamity James great on his day but rarely on his day. Jackson Smith great young GK didnt deserve to be dropped will be a top GK in league 2 in the next 18-24 months.
We have two strikers on loan who will more than likely go back to there club at end of season or go to a twam in higher division , Matt who cant play no more than an hour a game , DJ who has been frozen out the picture and DJT who cant hit a barn door but has the odd good game.
Hutch will more than likely be gone at end of season who do we replace his goals with , earing is great at this level but again only on his day , we have Comley who does his job and imo should be captain. Our RWB and LWB run round like headless chickens but cant cross a ball to save there life. DDis very underwhelming at minute but his form will return the priest top notch for this level and Mcentee the same as rhe priest so IMO we have 3 very good CB’S.
Jellyman and weir are two very unknown players who will sink or swim our hopes cant be pinned on them.
So please tell me how were improving on the field
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There isn’t a team that ever won a promotion over a 46 game season that just “got lucky”. Clubs that unexpectedly win promotions usually do so because of a shrewd/“good fit” managerial appointment, as was the case with ourselves with both Nicholl and Graydon for example. The former didn’t even sign a player and took over a team that were in the lower reaches of the division. Mansfield have been in and around the promotion race for 3 of the 4 completed seasons that we’ve been their contemporaries. They’re up there again and may or may not win promotion, but their fans surely wouldn’t be able to doubt the seriousness of the ambition of their board. Our board have been talking about five year plans and promotions for five years where we’ve bobbed about in lower mid-table and occasionally flirted with relegation. This season being the latest rinse and repeat. Specifically In terms of the football, where you see foundations being built, I see little need for foundations and no evidence of their existence even in the scenario they were necessary.
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