We may pinch a victory !! Any manager ,player ,reserve or YTS who thinks like this should never be near a football field every point is vital in this league or any other league i dont agree with that , bottom line is MS experimented and the gamble failed no ifs ands or buts
Yes.
The better we do, the higher attendances will be and the more weāll have to spend on players next year.
To add to that, weād be seen as a club that has stopped the rot and maybe even attract better players and staff.
Yes, ok, I agree, but say Hutchinson had got injured last week then a higher league position would then become a lot harder.
I feel as if posters think im saying losing is ok, Im not, Im just trying to convey that sadler has tough decisions on a game by game basis.
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I know you dont think losing is ok none of us do sorry if thats the way i came across .
Yes MS like any other manager has to take it game by game all im saying is they should also aim for the 3 points game by game no more no less regardless of injuries suspensions form etc too me MS didnt do that against sutton he just rolled over.
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We are a real Jeckyll and Hyde side you never know which side will show up?
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Do you know what. Iām just so annoyed by what Iām seeing week in week out and canāt find anywhere near enough positives on it so Iām probably being OTT about it anyway, but I just canāt see anything to suggest heās going to get us to where we should be.
Weāve had a few hyde-ings already.
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Weāll be playing Hyde before too long!
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That would be a horror story !!
I think peopleās minds have been made up over Sadler, and alot of that is down to experience of our most recent history.
If we win tomorrow or the next few games then it wont mean anything to the doubtful. There will be another loss, with its just and inevitable enquiry and all the work will be undone.
People wrote him off minutes after he was appointed, the only way he can win those fans over would be to gain promotion against the likely odds. If the wins dry up then the inquests resume.
Incremental growth is inappropriate, we need very unlikely success, or a miracle to get out of this football version of a negative feedback loop.
I think we would benefit from more money and support from a DOF or Scouting system to get good players in appropriate positions. Sadler knows football, I wish the club could back him more.
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With some even if we win the league by ten points they would still want Sadler gone , any success he has will be put down to someone else or something else and be despite of Sadler.
What is being missed by the majority is Sadler is part of a management team , Trivela will act when they feel a cog in the team is not working out , itās unlikely to be mid season unless we are falling off a cliff, were inconsistent as any young team is but we are not in free fall as those seeking to see failure want.
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What you say speaks to the divide within the club. We are so desperate for some wins in sequence.
The big attendances at the start suggest and prove the majority of fans backed Sadler and the team to begin with. Fans are not the problem, its a whole system issue that I dont expect will be fixed. The negative voices are the loudest.
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My issue is that I still donāt see a plan or a blueprint for what he wants to do. Just like the last few seasons we donāt have an identity on the pitch. I grew up in the Smith era and it was so clear and transparent what he was trying to do, what we were about.
Since Smith we have seemed aimless and disorganised footballing wise, both on the pitch and off it.
What kills me with Sadler is he has made so many bizarre decisions so early on that are just frankly inexcusable to me.
Though again I donāt blame him personally for all our woes, I think he has been thrown in at the deep end by the board, given little to not support or oversite and he is doing the best job that he can right now - and clearly the best he can do right now is just not good enough.
He may turn it around, he probably wonāt. All I know is that I used to want to know everything and anything about the club and the team, deciding which away matches I wasnāt going to because I went to most of them, watching highlights of games just gone dozens of times, etc.
The club has just worn me down that much that I donāt even know who we are playing today, or next after this. Passion has turned into apathy, and Sadlerās team isnāt reigniting that flame even in the slightest.
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This is where i think the Irish links will benefit us.
Majority of the LOI are part time and they only offer players one year deals. With the season ending in November and starting again in February, it gives us a window of opportunity between November-January to take a look at the best out of contract players for positions we need.
Like now, weāre looking for a centre half and have been looking since Hussey left six weeks ago, several players on trial, missed out on a player to Northampton.
Notts County had a bid for someone called Conor Keeley rejected in August, statistically one of the best defenders in Ireland.
Heās out of contract in December, one we should definitely be looking at.
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Like people have said, context plays a massive role. With the spectre of 10 years of failure; and Trivela taking 6 weeks to hire a rookie manager who has been part of a failed backroom staff for 3 years, MS is never going to get time to build. As most of us believe was and is not the right guy for the job in the first place.
Trivela, to date, have not really made any off the pitch decsions yet. We have the same board; we havnt replaced Mole, the job for fan experience/ marketing has been vacant for 3 months. They seem to be so slow to any type of action that moves us forward. On a side note, it is a massive concern that they do not have any people from the US in any day to day role at the club. Its like they have bought the house and left the same shitty tenants in. This coupled with the take over of Drogheda potentially slows the journey down even more.
With the same pre-buyout infrastructure still there without any real change, are we surprised we are still bang average?
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I dont know i struggle to agree with that. I for one gave MS my full backing when he was appointed i wanted him to succeed and maybe he still will. Yes hes a young manager finding his feet in the managerial game which i allowed for when he was making certain mistakes. We all make mistakes here and there when we are learning. I still havent fully turned against him. I still hold out hope misguided or not i dont know that MS can turn this around.
My reason for losing trust in him so quickly is
1 after a quarter of the season you can clearly see
he has no game plan.
2 he clearly doesnt know how to utilise both DJ and Draper in the starting 11. To me get these two playing together they will be amongst the deadliest pairing in the league.
3 The showing aginst Sutton was the worst id seen on thirty plus years of seeing them play , no passion guile or effort , just rolled over - this is what truly lost my trust in MS even more so in the post match conference.
As long as i can see a blue print for what hes working towards in the long run and the team at least shows some passion and fight whether win lose or draw then ill give MS more time and credit where credits due. Todays match will tell a thousand words
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they have bought the house and left the same shitty tenants in.
[/quote]and are reluctant to do essential repairs just make it habitable.incremental improvement on the footballing side just doesnāt wash with me not when you starting from the low level weāve be operating at with me the squad and manager needed to be made fit for purpose as a essential investment.and Iām not convinced that has happened .bit like you say weāve fixed a few leaks
I wasnāt keen on Sadlers appointment in the first place but I never wanted him to fail if anything I just expected him to fail thereās a difference.Sadler is in my opinion collateral damage to years of bad decisions and a managerial appointment process that took 5 weeks when the bloke they chose was already here.The fact the latter happened through no fault of his own was always going to create an atmosphere amongst fans of here we go again another slapdash decision or whyās it took so long when the bloke was already in the building.And whilst thatās not his fault as he had to adhere to the interview process he was already on the back foot before we kicked a ball in the league.I canāt personally see him turning anything around and we will once again float around in mid table but I have no idea whether we sack or stick with him because weāve tried experience and weāve tried youth in the dugout and as others have said it runs deeper than the pitch and dugout the problems seem to still be haunting the corridors of the bescot although some signs of those moving on are being shown slowly.
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Biggest thing for me with Sadler, and indeed any manager we have at this level (Taylor, and even Flynn and Clarke were all guilty of this too) is not having a game plan, or ripping it up as soon as the going gets a little tough.
At this level, itās not hard, just sign players that do a job well (enough) in one position, drill them in their position, and keep it simple. League 2 footballers are limited, but are still very able if used correctly, know whatās being asked of them, and suit the tactics they are asked to play in. Smith, Graydon, Dosh, Lee, Nicholl - all of them did this, although Smith obviously took longer to get results.
Absolutely no way should we be talking about attacking, front foot football, only to find the team hoofing it forwards, and having 30-40% of possession. No way should we be asking very limited players such as Taylor Allen to become Maldini and slot in at CB, no way should we be asking McEntee to be Ruud Gullit, no way should we not be playing to the strengths of one of the most natural finishers weāve had since Bradshaw.
Personally though, I dont think Sadler has had much say in recruitment, and is being asked to make something of who has been signed, rather than signing these players himself.
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When Sadler got the job he said he had final say on signing any player. If thatās not the case heās not helped himself getting a squad he wants.