Trivela Group Takeover

That tiny relevance is still more than your belly button, which was your contribution.

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If you look at one of their other ventures, Sovereign FC, there’s bugger all content on that too.

Does worry me a little, like one of those fraudulent companies that there’s no physical substance to.

Bud, that was a simile.

I’m far more interested in the new guy on the board, their goals for the club, how they’ll implement any change, what they’ll invest to help us get promoted, what can be done to improve the match day experience, leverage other income streams and generally make things better, yet here you are looking at sails. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Perhaps it goes some way to explain Pomlett being so pissed off about the pitch invasions. If there were representatives of Trivela at the games it wouldn’t have looked good.

I too share your scepticism - but unlike many other clubs that come up for sale, we carry little or no debt. Lots of clubs come up for sale cheap - but they come with millions of pounds of debt.

Add that to a relatively modern - and easily upgradeable stadium, plus it’s location in the hinterland of the UK’s second most populous city, I think as far as development potential goes, we do tick some important boxes.

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Hopefully some of those issues will be touched upon in general terms today.

Also in ā€œgeneral termsā€, I’m very interested as to how they plan to more greatly engage the club with its community, something that was an undertone in yesterday’s press release.

As for the folks on here discussing what they feel are issues of concern, I honestly don’t see the problem even if they seem trivial to others. Given our history, and how we ended up in this mess, you could argue if only someone had paid closer attention to Davenmanor, Denglen, and the minor issue of Severn Trent changing its mind about selling the freehold back in the day.

If this takeover has been a year in the making, then the new lot should have some pretty substantial, detailed, and well laid plans that they should be able to articulate from day 1. With that in mind I don’t really get why Pomlett needs to stay on for 4 years. Fair enough, 6 months or even 12? But 4 years?? Two years beyond the planned purchase of the freehold??? That’s my own personal red-flag so far.

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Good points. I think after decades of Bonserism we’ve all got a bit of ā€˜Smallsall’ attitude where we can’t see ourselves from outside…it’s a big adjustment to think we’re actually better than being shit.

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Hindsight is wonderful, but when all that happened there was no internet. Nobody had a clue what was happening until years later. Everything was buried deep by the time reality saw the light of day - and it’s way too late to say they wouldn’t get away with it now, unfortunately. Shit’s happened, we have to move on.

That’s not to say it should be forgotten or forgiven, though. Never. All the more reason Gilman should resign right now. He knows what happened, and how, and I frankly don’t understand how he’s still on the board.

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Jeffrey Bonser came to town
Stole our ground and freehold
Then Ben Boycott turned around
And said f*** off, you’ve been told

(Wishful thinking)

But that’s exactly my point. Today we do have the internet, and we’re not looking at this takeover in hindsight, we’re looking at it in real time. Therefore individuals that wished they (or others that were around at the time) had the ability to better scrutinise the events of 30 odd years ago might find themselves predisposed to scrutinise current events.

Personally I’m not that bothered, I’m firmly in the ā€œnothing can be worse than the slow deathā€ camp, even if that means sudden death! We have some brilliant people in our fan base, eg look what ISSA have achieved, and I’m certain that if the current Walsall FC was to be once again shagged with a rag-man’s trumpet as it was in 1989, we could reincarnate with something closer to what we are supposed to actually be.

My point is that given the takeovers experienced by most of us, even older fans’ are, Ramsden, Bonser, and Pomlett - I fully understand individuals scrutinising the minutiae given that we have a far greater ability to do so now than in years gone by.

Agreed.

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What I would like to see is them trying to make investments on players so signing a 22 year old for say 100K then in 3 years time selling him for 750K that sort of thing because then we get to enjoy the journey of a player and the fruits that come with it so maybe ā€œinvestmentā€ might also mean making money on playing staff as well as what @enniskillen says above selling the club for 4X it’s worth when we reach the championship the most over used 3 words of the last 24 hours but ā€œTime will tellā€

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The Peterborough model would a good route to go down, buy promising young attackers and sell them off for a tidy profit rinse and repeat.

That’s a good shout mate and one that did pass through my mind as I’ve been digesting it all it’s quite a bit to take in after years of well you know what I’m going to say.

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If you look at the Sovereign fc website (also run Boycott) there is a comment about untapped talent pools in the developing world. This is why I think we’ll see foreign players at Walsall. Longdogs says this won’t be the case because of Brexit, but I don’t know.

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For years fans have said ā€˜we’re a selling club’. Just not had much to sell recently. Lost our way…

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Considering we need about 6 new players who knows
I’m not bothered where they come from as long as they play for the shirt and are half decent

with regard to concerns about the logo; The Beatles Apple label and Apple, iPhones etc have ended up in legal wranglings over music streaming but not over the use of the name and the symbol, (an Apple). So although there are close similarities between Corsair and Trivela logo’s it may not be an issue as the said company’s do different things

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Fair point, and I do hope nothing comes of it. Slight difference in the example though, where Apple Music and Apple had similar logos, in this case they appear to be identical. Minor points like that can be the difference. Even if there’s no concern of litigation, it could still be interpreted as a bit lazy, which I think would be a relevant observation.

Until the press conference, there’s not much meat to chew on other than logos and speculation.

Normal practice for big companies which makes me think these are in it for the good of the club (and themselves obviously, why wouldn’t they want/expect a return) and that they do know what they’re doing and aren’t coming in thinking they know it all and just want it doing their way.

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Looking at it from purely a footballing point of view, if you rewind the clock back to the appointment of a director of football, something a lot of fans were asking for, and had announced Matt Jordan I think most fans would have been very enthusiastic. Compared to the bloke we went in for, who had a failed management career on his CV at Halifax (and people were still positive about), imagine if we’d announced somebody who’d managed to build up a franchise in Canada so well it was accepted into the MLS (Notoriously difficult to do, it’s considered a closed shop) and then over saw his next club win a major domestic trophy (again, much more difficult than say, winning the FA Cup after spending a billion pounds, and far more to do with ā€œgeneral managementā€ than it would be over here).

I’m not saying that everyone would be positive, but that is a damn site more impressive of a record than what we ended up with.

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