W 2-1 vs Salford City (H) - League Two - Sat 9th Oct, 3pm

[el_nombre]

Have you? I seem to remember telling you Kinsella wasn’t the issue, but the lack of creativity next to him and shipping him out to right back wasn’t the issue

[Thanatos]

Go back years… I’ve said the same thing, it’s the combination of both in the middle that’s the problem. Kinsella has been part of that problem, because he doesn’t pick the ball up and play through lines the same way Earring does in the holding role. I’ve literally wittered on about this for years. Glad you are finally realising

I’d take Labadie over Kinsella in that more slightly advanced of Earring role, every day of the week.

[el_nombre]

Not how I remember it but ok

For what it’s worth neither of them should be playing advanced of Earing and I thought that was a problem today. And if you’ve watched both Kinsella and Labadie this season and prefer Labadie to Kinsella I find that … surprising.

[Thanatos]

Literally every post about it.

[el_nombre]

Ok mate.

[Thanatos]

Ask and Thou shall receive:

5th January this year:

@Thanatos

I think football has moved on - even at our level. Look at the teams above us, a lot of them do have midfielders who contribute a bit more, and don’t run around tackling.

@Thanatos

I think what we are screaming out for in the middle is someone who can take charge of the game, get the ball off the back 4 and use it quickly, play through the lines, and carry the ball forward a bit.

Pre-season:

@Thanatos

Our problem the last few season, regardless of manager or personnel is breaking teams down and commanding play at home. We have been woeful on the whole. I hope we see a bit more expansive play, and taking the game to teams next season. Again, I don’t see how Kinsella fits in that narrative - but I do see how he fits into narratives that I defined in the paragraph above.

Feb:

@Thanatos

He’s neither one thing nor the other and that’s his problem. He’s not demanding enough of the ball and does not use it well enough to be a defensive midfielder - and does not get forward enough to be a more box to box player.

He needs to decide what he’s going to do, because heart and determination can only take you so far. For him, and for us.

Weeks ago:

@Thanatos

In my humble opinion… that’s because the combination of Kinsella and Labadie isn’t right as the 2 in a 4231

@Thanatos

It’s one or the other for me. I have been saying this for about 3 years. We seem incapable of controlling a game, and we haven’t had a midfielder who can push up and occasionally pass through, or get in the box since Mantom. That’s a really big problem.

I think MT knows this, and that’s why he tried a more creative option in Osadebe in the 2 for a couple of games, but he’s clearly not got the ability to play that role, so Matt has had to resort to Labadie and Kins.

Do you want more confirmation or?

@Thanatos

This is the argument I’ve been making for three years!

Glad to see others actually think the same…

It’s not a case of Kinsella being rubbish, it’s a case of the right combination of a middle 2. Kinsella did try to play forward a bit more last week, but I don’t think it comes naturally to him. Fair play if he does transform and grow into that sort of player, I’d be the first to congratulate him, because no one can question is heart and tenacity. That is truly first class.

[el_nombre]

Can go back earlier than that mate

Remember? When you thought he was a right back like I said because you didn’t think he was a very good midfielder?

[Thanatos]

I’ll take that as an admission that you now agree with me regarding the midfield make up - and it’s an argument I’ve been making for months and years

I actually still think he’d do a decent job at right back - especially with the squad as thin as it is there. He will have a job getting in this side of Labadie and Earring carry on and blossom.

Come let me know when you want some more insight

[Belphegor]

@Thanatos

I’ve been going on about this for years and years now. The midfield has to be Earring and Labadie or Kins. Not Labadie and Kins.

Ladabie and Earing only signed in the summer

I agree though, either Kins or Ladabie

[el_nombre]

How the f*** have you got that

[Thanatos]

yow know what I mean ya sausage.

As I said in those old posts of mine, we haven’t controlled the midfield in a game consistently at home, for years and years.

I don’t care who plays there, but a Labadie-type player, and Kins-type player (which is what I should have said) will not solve that problem.

We have to have a bit more about us in there, and it’s the combination there that is important.

Chambers and Mantom being the best modern day example of that working. They complimented each other, rather than their individual merits. We, of course, need the league two version of that, in order to get better.

[Thanatos]

Ermm… I’m exactly right ay I?

I did tell you all of this.

But also thanks for going back even further than I did to prove my point

[el_nombre]

No!! I said he wasn’t the issue. You made out we’d be nothing more than mid table if we persisted. How you’re twisting that into you agreeing … you’ve got more front than Benidorm!

Literally post upon post of you making out Kinsella, not the bloke next to him, is the issue

[Thanatos]

You realise Kinsella didn’t play today right… and we are in the bottom half of L2…. Right?

[el_nombre]

Yeah. And?

[Peel85]

I do wonder if certain people have a life away from U.T.S Forum. OBSESSED

[hullsaddler]

Have just got back from a wedding and was enjoying reading through the thread but PLEASE can you both stop this tit and tat response!

[SWS1]

I had a stinking cold, too and it turned out to be Covid. Get a PCR test asap.

[Thanatos]

My bad. I should have realised when he piped up!

dog with a bone that lad.

[SWS1]

Great result, today, and it would not have flattered us if we had kept a clean sheet (you know, one of those strange occurrences sometimes called “not conceding a goal”). They rarely actually threatened our goal and we missed a significant number of decent chances (as usual). Thank goodness justice was done in the end because otherwise I would have been apoplectic rather than rather mellow, like I am now. Well deserved three points. Onwards and upwards!