Another site is saying 3rd most expensive most say 4th though
You could save yourself quite a bit more if you didnt go at all. You could spend your time doing something that you are interested in.
Probably save the rest of us reading all your tripe as well.
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And as I said:
Iāll use the 40 quid a month on one of those
Never mind the fact that I already do away games anyway, so itās not an extra cost, Iām just not shelling out 400 quid on a ādiscountā season ticket.
not that itās any of your f***ing business what games I do or do not choose to attend 
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Yawn. I always know when somebody falls back on this bollocks that theyāve run out of points.
Weāre all interested in it, if I wasnāt I wouldnāt be here explaining bare basics to you. And Iāve demonstrated more than enough, like it or not, my opinions are at least valid
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You have my permission to spend your money how you wish @el_nombre , it just seems odd that youād rather let other clubs benefit rather than the club you spend half your life talking or arguing about on UTS.
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Rarely do it these days, but went properly out on the lash last week. Proper old school night so beers, shorts, shots, curry at about 1:30 then a cab home.
Donāt know how much it cost but definitely in excess of a ton. Sure I used to do nights like that all the time and even taking into account inflation, it seems that going out is a proper expensive do these days.
A Walsall season ticket versus three or four of those and itās really not a contest. The ST wins every time.
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And Iāve explained it to you, multiple times.
But thatās not the same market. When I was 18-25, semi-cool, had a chance of getting laid and all my friends were doing the same thing the night out won every time and a lot more than a couple of times a year, now it sounds hellish. I wonāt be spending my extra cash on that either.
Itās not a comparison between season tickets, or a few nights out a year. Itās drawing a line at ridiculous price hikes every year for very little improvement in atmosphere, experience or, most importantly, the football.
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Like i said mate its not just football i remember all the outrage over food and energy prices last year itās still going on but very little is said about it now people seem to have just accepted being ripped off as the norm now in general.
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Iāve had to, who else is going to take my Grandson to the matches.
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Donāt mention fuel prices either, both for house or car. Again it could come down but we are now used to paying these ridiculous prices we take it as the norm, Ā£1.53 a litre for diesel is now seen as cheap! so why should they drop them any?
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Think thatās the crux of this present discussion as to wether youāre the type of person who excepts it as the ānorm ā or looks at it value you for money .i know which camp Iām in I hate being ripped off I over - pay when I want something when thereās no choice thatās the world we live in now Iām afraid .but I donāt like it donāt except it .and I always always exercise choice with regards to value most times .and wether have Ā£10 or 10 million makes no difference to me .
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When I first started going out you made sure you had a fiver in your poket cuz you knew you could get pissed on that.
Relatively beer is cheaper now that it was then compared with other things.
Actually, Iāll take the nights out.
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On attendances in general we have averaged over 5,500 this season which is quite a leap in the right direction.
Puts us 13th in our league and if you put attendances across the country in an order weād be 11th in the fourth tier.
Importantly, we are closing the gap on some of those who used to be significantly worse supported than us who stole a march whilst our board were smugly declaring themselves the embodiment of well run clubs. The likes of Tranmere, Shrewsbury. Doncaster, Lincoln.
In the order of the country you need to be getting around 7,000 to straddle third and fourth tier and around 8,500 to be comfortably third tier.
Firstly it shows how much the game has moved on in the last thirty years or so (our mid 80ās averages of mid four thousands used to have us straddling second and third tier). Secondly it shows how sleepy our club was whilst that was happening. And thirdly it shows how much work this is still to be done for us to return to being that architypal third division club.
But weāre moving in a really positive direction.
Trivela need to be thinking about how we attract another 2,000 people. A big part of that is what they put out on the pitch. But another is the stadium itself. Take out the big stand and most views are restricted. The away end is also too small.
Be interesting to see/hear how this yearās early bird campaign has gone. Donāt know whether the extension is a good or bad sign.
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I think whilst our improvement on ST numbers and matchday audiences is encouraging the above shows how far we still have to go. On another thread discussing next season another poster said anything lower than 7th next season would be failure for Sadler but if we have the 13th highest audiences which will be our biggest revenue source without extra investment from Trivela thatās likely to restrict our relative playing budget to our divisional rivals (and a fair old chunk of those ticket/ST sales are effectively no revenue with our excellent kids offers). Iād wager our playing budget would probably not be in the top 7 in the league, certainly not this season and so to finish top 7 we would be punching above our weight.
Many on here equate the improvement in audience numbers with the last 20 years as a proof that we now should expect success as we are pulling in more punters (the Pomlett 5k comment gets bought up fairly regularly) but weāre not competing with our former selves, but the other 23 clubs in this division, if which more than half currently at least certainly bring in more people and most likely more revenue to in turn spend on their playing staff.
The fact the early bird has reopened, the cynic in me thinks maybe sales are a little lighter than they were budgeting for, which surprises me if true as it coincided with a decent run of form whereas last yearās early bird was in the midst of a dreadful run.
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Shows how much our ānumber one fanā damaged the club as he fleeced it for his retirement. Asleep at the wheel, along with the rest of the dinosaur cronies in his boardroom, like Whalley, Gamble and co (people who incidentally also knew nothing about football but didnāt admit it).
Thank heavens we are moving on. Trivela takeover has shown just how the club can progress with an interested party running it.
For balance, I think Bonser actually tried up until the Colin Lee episode, then decided we could all go f*** ourselves as long as he got his rent. Trouble is even when he tried it was amateur hour.
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Mine at Ā£400 feels a little pricey when you hear of a few others (eg Ipswich at Ā£380 in championship / possibly Premier League). I think we should look at another tier to pricing such at raising the under 21 band to U23, cost me this year for my sons ST and he is not earning a great deal as still in training but probably a real stretch for some Dads to keep their lads alongside them. Overall the value for money will be determined by the quality of the product, firstly the actual football and secondly the match day experienceā¦ improving on both fronts and hopefully another step change in 24/25 season. Finally I am advocate of no further EB discount offer after this window closes as there must be a reward for those who are blindly committed year on year 
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In terms of revenue you do of course have to factor in other revenue streams the clubs are also able to generate. For instance I suspect the likes of Barrow generate less from other corporate activities. This has sometimes been portrayed as giving us an advantage whereas due to the point mentioned above I tend to think itās not so much been an advantage for us for some years now so much as maintaining a more level playing field for us as weāve lost ground on others attendance wise.
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Good sentiment, but the elephant in the room is being ignored. The gap between top and bottom is getting wider because TV money is distorting the game. Every club needs it to survive, but itās killed the FA Cup competition, and itās slowly strangling the league too.
Just my opinion, but itās looking pretty clear. Our season tickets are expensive because we need the money to function. Theyāre cheap by comparison in the championship, and especially the Premiershit, because they want bums on seats for the cameras, where most of their income comes from.
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