Yeah I read that but still, it is the only reason you’ve come up with and to be honest in a league that sees 10 teams often separated by 2/3 points it’s a pretty ridiculous one…positions change in a blink of an eye.
Not only that, your point was regarding the style of play not the end product of league position.
Mcentee in midfield is no more a reason for us being 19th at any given point than it is him not being in the team the reason why we’re 15th at any given point.
Jeez
No not really although I do have trouble sometimes believing what I’m hearing 
Whine at each other in messages, please, and stick to welcoming JJ.
I politely disagree.
That’s ok mate 
given your reasoning I’m not sure what else you could do 
Back to Jellis……I agree I think in the immediate he will replace Tierney (either during injury or when he does return to Motherwell), longer term if he does prove to adapt well I think may be seen as a replacement for Hutch.
Is it partly down to postponed games in both cases?
Usual bollox from the Prof.
He won’t admit he’s wrong though, being a far greater football genius than Sadler or any other actual manager.
You talk absolute bollocks too.
I was proven right in this issue and CS seems to be rewriting history to suit his agenda. Thats fine 
Do you want my autograph or something?
time
Re-writing history? Come on mate that’s not constructive that’s just an insult.
Unless you got the data the intelligence and the time to offer more than “we’re 19th in league two” as a reason for McEntee being no good in midfield (by PM btw), then I’m not sure you can accuse me of re-writing anything.
Anyway….Jellis….
double hump
Well that went down well Exile 
I think 19th in league two was the argument - and the objective undeniable evidence that it wasn’t going well…
You can put in all the stats you like (I haven’t seen a single one to refute my assertions) - but none of them shed any light on the fact we were playing poorly (qualitatively) and in a really poor position (quantitatively).
I am not sure what your argument is.
Would you play McEntee as an 8 over Hutch or Earing?
If the answer to that question is ‘no’ - then I have no idea what the purpose of your argument is. If you think that McEntee should play at the back - then you surely agree with me that the team is better off…
As I said at the start, I can see the logic of this signing - and hopefully adds more weight to the fact Sadler knew (or was told) he was being way too negative, and we needed to look forward - not back.
Oh dear… 
I would if we were playing Notts county away. I fancy he’d get a couple of goals.
No it wasn’t. The argument was whether McEntee in midfield hampered performance of the team or not and whether he had performed in that role individually.
You can’t just change your argument depending on whether you’re looking silly or not.
You havent seen a single one? Not surprised because you simply ignore anything you don’t like seeing.
Your assertion was, that the performances without him in the side are proof that he isn’t a CM. Which is simply untrue and carry no weight of evidence at all which is demonstrated by the evidence of results AND performances with and without him playing there.
You’re basing ‘proof’ that your argument is correct simply on a great win and performance v Wrexham and a great win v Grimsby….otherwise you’re surely not basing it on the Southampton game or the loss at Stockport?
I countered Wrexham with a host of results and performances against top sides, that match that with him playing and also demonstrated that as far as the ability to progress the ball, dominate possession and make passes - which is your assertion that we cannot do with him in midfield - a loss at home to Harrogate was a far more impressive display than the win at Grimsby!
We played badly with him and we played badly without him. We played well with 352 and poorly with it as well as playing well with a 4231, which you claimed was the way forward all season, until we played poorly with it!
I stil cannot find anything to support your argument that any of this was due to McEntee being shoehorned into playing midfield.
Our league position was due to all sorts of reasons. Not one (McEntee) and as has been pointed out, games in hand, form, opposition and injuries are all more reasonable excuses as to being 19th instead of 15th than Oisin playing! We were only ever 3 pts from 15th anyway!
My argument is McEntee has been effective as a midfielder and we are no more a fluid passing machine without him than you claim we are. The evidence supports that. If you read it.
No but I’m not the manager and it’s not because I don’t think he can play in midfield. Earing flatters to decieve somewhat and we’ve been far too carried away with the romantics of his return than evidence and I’ve said several times his toughest tests are the next 6 games not the last 4. Stockport he was little short of dreadful and we missed McEntee.
My own preference is to play two holding players and yes there is a very good case for McEntee to be one of them.
It will of course be dependent on opposition too. But Oisin provides something no one else does.
Youve got yourself very confused between a league position and the actual discussion which was and is, are we a better side with or without him in CM and does he produce performances that warrant him playing there.
There is no evidence to suggest we’re better without him as a footballing side or as a result based outcome and there is strong evidence to suggest he’s done a good job there.
Welcome 
That wasn’t difficult was it?
Poor from you.
For context :-
And the question was would I play him ahead of Hutch or Earing. Thats not to say I would t play him ahead of Comley or either of the other two should the game suit.
I am not quite sure you are understanding - I think you are overthinking.
I think we are a better side without McEntee as the 8. I think he is much more effective as a centre half stepping in, or I could buy him as a defensive midfielder.
That’s it.
No I’m really not. You’ve just become a bit of a chameleon on the subject.
That was fine until you decided that you’d been ‘proven’ right.
Welcome to Jamie Jellis personally can’t wait for him to get some minutes make first team debut ( in about 2 years or catastrophic injuries to the squad ) 
cheer up Jamie I’m sure Mat Sadler has seen your potential.and I’m sure you will have not come to sit on your arse for 18 months .good luck